TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Sep 26, 2006 | 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
They need not be placed in the baggie. The baggie is for items that were not permitted yesterday but are now permitted today (shampoo, toothpaste, hair gel, etc). The other excepted items (like 4 oz bottle of saline and eye drops, etc) don't have to go in the baggie.
Additional question, since 8/10, the deoderant in my 20 inch rollerbad has prompted the TSA to have to open my bag to see if my deoderant was gel or solid (it's solid). Will I still be subjected to this additional secirity at the checkpoint?
Sep 26, 2006 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
The deodorant, mouthwash and other toiletries are limited to quantities of 3 oz or less and must be inside a quart size sealed plastic bag. This bag needs to be removed and x-rayed separately.
Sep 26, 2006 | 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
The deodorant, mouthwash and other toiletries are limited to quantities of 3 oz or less and must be inside a quart size sealed plastic bag. This bag needs to be removed and x-rayed separately.
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I would agree with your logic for sealed containers. If a passenger brings a sealed container, then it should be treated no differently than items brought in by airport venders. However, my guess is that ETDing all sealed bottles and containers brought in by passengers probably would bog down the screening process more than would otherwise be practical or acceptable.
The general policy is that all liquids, gels and aerosols are prohibited as carry-on items by passengers. The exception to this general policy is restricted to small quantities not exceeding 3 oz per container and a total of whatever can be transported in a quart-size sealed plastic bag. The other exceptions are the three types of exemptions I explained earlier.
As for why you can't bring in an 8 oz tube of toothpaste, I don't know. I'll have to send a strongly-worded email to Kip Hawley for not keeping me in the loop on this.
The general policy is that all liquids, gels and aerosols are prohibited as carry-on items by passengers. The exception to this general policy is restricted to small quantities not exceeding 3 oz per container and a total of whatever can be transported in a quart-size sealed plastic bag. The other exceptions are the three types of exemptions I explained earlier.
As for why you can't bring in an 8 oz tube of toothpaste, I don't know. I'll have to send a strongly-worded email to Kip Hawley for not keeping me in the loop on this.
The other point is that visual inspection, whether with the naked eye or x-ray still does not identify whether the liquid is explosive or not. Even putting it in a baggie doesn't. So it's just a show and it wastes time.
I really have a hard time believing that this just isn't for the benefit of Hudson News and their ilk (except for maybe those airports that have to charge nonairport prices by law, like in PIT).
The solution is "better" and more workable, meaning I don't have as much of a problem taking my son on a plane now. However, more needs to be done.
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
The OP mentioned solid deodorant - so there's no weight limit on that nor must it be in the baggie.
As I see it, non-liquids have the same policy today as before - carry them on, unannounced.
The three essential exceptions - milk, eye drops, cough syrup, prescription liquids and creams, etc - now have to be "declared" and possibly screened outside your carryon bag (presumably just lay them in a bin), but do not go in the ziplock bag.
Stuff that was "illegal" yesterday - pretty much every other liquid, cream, gel or aerosol - is now limited to being in 3oz-ish and smaller containers. The max number of containers is however many fit "comfortably" in a 1-quart freezer bag. Comfortably I would interpret as with the bag sealed and the seems not completely at the bursting point.
Bart, does this basically sum it up?
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:18 pm
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Hey Bart, here's another one: 
My stepmom has MS, walks with a cane, and qualifies as disabled/handicapped. She has great difficulty taking off her shoes. Previously, she had been able to sit down and have a TSA agent do a bunch of wanding and some hand swiping tests to check for whatever. We were discussing the new regulations the other night at dinner and she said she plans to still refuse to remove her shoes. I said I didn't know if anyone was allowed to refuse the shoe carnival anymore, but she was pretty certain. What's the word on this situation?
GG
My stepmom has MS, walks with a cane, and qualifies as disabled/handicapped. She has great difficulty taking off her shoes. Previously, she had been able to sit down and have a TSA agent do a bunch of wanding and some hand swiping tests to check for whatever. We were discussing the new regulations the other night at dinner and she said she plans to still refuse to remove her shoes. I said I didn't know if anyone was allowed to refuse the shoe carnival anymore, but she was pretty certain. What's the word on this situation?
GG
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:30 pm
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Inconsistent as always. Apparently, some screeners are interpreting the rule as follows.
Prescription liquids -- Declared and taken out for security, some are requiring them in the baggie as well.
Toiletries -- under 3oz and in the baggie
Non-Prescription medications-- Any size, but must be in baggie.
So many of the screeners are rejecting items that are 3oz., and forcing all non-prescription medicines into the bag. Apparantly their are contradictory instructions on the size of bottles. Even TSA's page says on one page 3oz or less (the press release) and on another page (the permitted prohibited list) it states less than 3oz.
Prescription liquids -- Declared and taken out for security, some are requiring them in the baggie as well.
Toiletries -- under 3oz and in the baggie
Non-Prescription medications-- Any size, but must be in baggie.
So many of the screeners are rejecting items that are 3oz., and forcing all non-prescription medicines into the bag. Apparantly their are contradictory instructions on the size of bottles. Even TSA's page says on one page 3oz or less (the press release) and on another page (the permitted prohibited list) it states less than 3oz.
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Hey Bart, here's another one:
My stepmom has MS, walks with a cane, and qualifies as disabled/handicapped. She has great difficulty taking off her shoes. Previously, she had been able to sit down and have a TSA agent do a bunch of wanding and some hand swiping tests to check for whatever. We were discussing the new regulations the other night at dinner and she said she plans to still refuse to remove her shoes. I said I didn't know if anyone was allowed to refuse the shoe carnival anymore, but she was pretty certain. What's the word on this situation?
GG
My stepmom has MS, walks with a cane, and qualifies as disabled/handicapped. She has great difficulty taking off her shoes. Previously, she had been able to sit down and have a TSA agent do a bunch of wanding and some hand swiping tests to check for whatever. We were discussing the new regulations the other night at dinner and she said she plans to still refuse to remove her shoes. I said I didn't know if anyone was allowed to refuse the shoe carnival anymore, but she was pretty certain. What's the word on this situation?
GG
Sep 26, 2006 | 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
Your stepmother will not be required to remove her shoes. She will, however, undergo secondary screening no different than what you described.
Gee, Bart, that's great, but wow, that's not what my TSA website said at all!