TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Oct 5, 2006 | 2:09 am
#736
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
I love the Transportation Stupidity Administration.
Today, flying SJC-SEA, I printed out their list of approved and prohibited items. When they saw my 4 oz bottle of saline solution, they said I cannot fly with it. I argued with them, and pulled out their list I printed from their web site.
Today, flying SJC-SEA, I printed out their list of approved and prohibited items. When they saw my 4 oz bottle of saline solution, they said I cannot fly with it. I argued with them, and pulled out their list I printed from their web site.
I emailed her about the same exact issue last week in Terminal A - and she apologized and said she would clear it up.
Oct 5, 2006 | 2:31 am
#737
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Originally Posted by Dovster
Bart, are we talking about 3 ozs of weight or 3 liquid ozs (which is a size measurement)?
Also, will TSA screeners know what this translates into if I bring foreign containers with the sizes marked in grams or mls?
Also, will TSA screeners know what this translates into if I bring foreign containers with the sizes marked in grams or mls?
Oct 5, 2006 | 8:24 am
#739
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Originally Posted by dtc
If you want the email for the Customer Service Manager from the TSA for SJC, let me know via private message.
I emailed her about the same exact issue last week in Terminal A - and she apologized and said she would clear it up.
I emailed her about the same exact issue last week in Terminal A - and she apologized and said she would clear it up.
Originally Posted by juanvaldez
The lady stated, "We don't follow that list, we have our own."
Quick, retrain that err... lady - some SSI violation here shurely
Oct 5, 2006 | 12:06 pm
#741
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Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through security in IND yesterday with my mini, hand-labeled and unlabeled bottles. : )
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I had no problems today in SFO. Just a quick glance and they where deemed fine.
in fact i had a pleasant experience. The checkpoint was lightly trafficked and the girl at the metal detector wanted to chat for a bit. We spent a good 10 minutes talking (not about security), it was quite pleasant. There was no other customer there during that whole time.
Oct 5, 2006 | 12:33 pm
#742
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Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Just wanted to let everyone know that I made it through security in IND yesterday with my mini, hand-labeled and unlabeled bottles. : )
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Oct 5, 2006 | 2:48 pm
#743
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The Ooze Test
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.
So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.
So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.
Oct 5, 2006 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.
So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.
So I will now freeze everything right before going to the airport.
I tried that logic @ BOS with my gel deodorant: it's one piece!
Oct 5, 2006 | 4:25 pm
#746
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
In Seattle, I saw TSA doing the ooze test. Someone had a container of something that might have been gel. So they held it upside down for a minute. If it OOZED, then it's a gel, otherwise it was OK as a solid.
Oct 5, 2006 | 4:29 pm
#747
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by studentff
(emphasis mine)
It's going to be a nightmare scenario if TSA starts stealing/confscating items based on lack of label, and if they do that I'll go right back to smuggling the items like I've been doing since 8/11.
They had better exercise some common sense and recognize that anything that fits "comfortably" in the quart-sized bag is pretty much under 3 oz. But I'm not hopeful.
It's going to be a nightmare scenario if TSA starts stealing/confscating items based on lack of label, and if they do that I'll go right back to smuggling the items like I've been doing since 8/11.
They had better exercise some common sense and recognize that anything that fits "comfortably" in the quart-sized bag is pretty much under 3 oz. But I'm not hopeful.
Travel with unmarked containers at your own risk. It seems to be very much about what the screener thinks the rule is.
Oct 5, 2006 | 6:51 pm
#748
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Dear Bart,
I just wanted to confirm something that we were told at the airport this past weekend and confirmed by the TSA agent at the airport. Penn State's Ag program produces great ice cream and packs it to go in dry ice. We didn't buy any since we could never imagine that ice cream, not alone dry ice, would be allowable under the new rules.
However, a guy on our flight was able to bring the ice cream in a bag on board in his carry-on as long as there was no more than 4 lbs. of dry ice. The concern seemed to be more over the dry ice than the ice cream.
Does this work?
Thanks in advance.
I just wanted to confirm something that we were told at the airport this past weekend and confirmed by the TSA agent at the airport. Penn State's Ag program produces great ice cream and packs it to go in dry ice. We didn't buy any since we could never imagine that ice cream, not alone dry ice, would be allowable under the new rules.
However, a guy on our flight was able to bring the ice cream in a bag on board in his carry-on as long as there was no more than 4 lbs. of dry ice. The concern seemed to be more over the dry ice than the ice cream.
Does this work?
Thanks in advance.
Oct 5, 2006 | 7:31 pm
#749
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Originally Posted by ladysoleil
Late to the party, since I just got back from the Bahamas, but yes, that's exactly what happened at EWR. My shampoo in a travel-sized 3 oz Nalgene bottle was confiscated because it was not labeled. Or, as the screener said, "I know it's not a threat, but I am taking it anyway".
Travel with unmarked containers at your own risk. It seems to be very much about what the screener thinks the rule is.
Travel with unmarked containers at your own risk. It seems to be very much about what the screener thinks the rule is.
Remember: bring your prohibited items list printout and Bart's instructions to speak with a GSC so you know what to do and say when this happens. That is NOT right!!! Plus, it should NOT be up to the screeners to interpret the rules. ARGH!!!
GG <- my troublyness seems to be increasing, LOL
