TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Sep 27, 2006 | 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
Thanks, but I will only be training at SAT.
Sep 27, 2006 | 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie
Bart is yet again correct and this is from the tsa website (which i carry with me). scroll down and bolding is not mine but on the website: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...eds/index.shtm
People with disabilities, those with prosthetic devices, and those with medical conditions do not have to remove their shoes during this heightened security level nor has this been the case during routine travel times. Those who keep their shoes on will be subjected to additional screening that includes a visual or physical and explosive trace detection sampling of their footwear.
People with disabilities, those with prosthetic devices, and those with medical conditions do not have to remove their shoes during this heightened security level nor has this been the case during routine travel times. Those who keep their shoes on will be subjected to additional screening that includes a visual or physical and explosive trace detection sampling of their footwear.
Sep 27, 2006 | 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Katja
Except when the TSO insists.
Why have rules if the screeners either don't know them or refuse to follow them? Like in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606339
Sep 27, 2006 | 5:23 pm
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Question: I have two relatives who wear leg braces. Screening has been hell for both of them for a long time.
Do people who wear leg braces that depend on the integrity of the brace-shoe relationship have to remove shoes?
Strictly speaking a brace in not a prosthetic.
Thanks in advance for any help on this!
Do people who wear leg braces that depend on the integrity of the brace-shoe relationship have to remove shoes?
Strictly speaking a brace in not a prosthetic.
Thanks in advance for any help on this!
Last edited by Teacher49; Sep 27, 2006 at 5:42 pm
Sep 27, 2006 | 7:11 pm
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They should not have to remove shoes, no. Here is the TSA guidance for "Persons with Prosthetic Devices, Casts, Body Braces": http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1370.shtm.
Also read further down the page for "Orthopedic Shoes, Support Appliances, and Other Exterior Medical Devices".
Security Officers will need to see and touch your prosthetic device, cast or support brace as part of the screening process. We will not ask nor require you to remove your prosthetic device(s), cast, or support brace. During the screening process, please do not remove or offer to remove your prosthetic device(s).
Sep 27, 2006 | 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher49
Still I am chilled by this particular part of your advice. While this is a good strategy in any social interaction, the implication of their being negative consequences for someone staying within the law and yet doesn't smile and allows themselves a "smart remark" is troublesome. It bespeaks of advice to be subservient to authority even when it is abused.
I may choose to smile, but why should be a necessary strategy to avoid trouble?
I may choose to smile, but why should be a necessary strategy to avoid trouble?
humans!
Sep 27, 2006 | 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
3. If you aren't making any progress with the supervisor, ask them to notify the Ground Security Coordinator for the airlines. Explain your concerns to the GSC. A good GSC will challenge the STSO's call in this case and/or follow it up with a call to the FSD's office. Either way, one of the following will occur:
Sep 27, 2006 | 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by dtc
Is there a Visio doc somewhere that explains the reporting/authority between a FSD/STSO/GSC? And why would notifying the airlines help?
http://www.19.5degs.com/element/16536.php
Sep 27, 2006 | 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Katja
Except when the TSO insists.
Sep 28, 2006 | 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Why have rules if the screeners either don't know them or refuse to follow them?
Sep 28, 2006 | 7:21 pm
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(yet another) question for Bart
Bart-
forgive me but as goalie-sis would say, i'm having a bald moment....
in between the full liquid ban and the recenetly revised "3oz"limit, i was allowed to carry nose drops/spray in my briefcase as long as it was less than 4oz. i'm all set to go this w/e with my baggie and 3oz or less containers (btw, edge shaving cream travel size is 2.75 oz but i digress....) but my question is.....can i still carry my 2.5oz nose drops/spray (used to help clear my sinuses & pop my ears) in my briefcase or is this one of the "declared items". my crazy rationale is that once i'm past the checkpoint, everything in my baggie gets removed and put in my toiltery case in my wheels and stored in the overhead and i'd rather leave the nose drops in the briefcase as that sits under the seat in frnt of me. just curious and sorry for such a silly question (and fwiw, the nose drops live in my briefcase and were never looked at with a "bag check" during either the full or modified (pre 30z rules))
forgive me but as goalie-sis would say, i'm having a bald moment....
in between the full liquid ban and the recenetly revised "3oz"limit, i was allowed to carry nose drops/spray in my briefcase as long as it was less than 4oz. i'm all set to go this w/e with my baggie and 3oz or less containers (btw, edge shaving cream travel size is 2.75 oz but i digress....) but my question is.....can i still carry my 2.5oz nose drops/spray (used to help clear my sinuses & pop my ears) in my briefcase or is this one of the "declared items". my crazy rationale is that once i'm past the checkpoint, everything in my baggie gets removed and put in my toiltery case in my wheels and stored in the overhead and i'd rather leave the nose drops in the briefcase as that sits under the seat in frnt of me. just curious and sorry for such a silly question (and fwiw, the nose drops live in my briefcase and were never looked at with a "bag check" during either the full or modified (pre 30z rules))
Sep 28, 2006 | 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie
Bart-
forgive me but as goalie-sis would say, i'm having a bald moment....
in between the full liquid ban and the recenetly revised "3oz"limit, i was allowed to carry nose drops/spray in my briefcase as long as it was less than 4oz. i'm all set to go this w/e with my baggie and 3oz or less containers (btw, edge shaving cream travel size is 2.75 oz but i digress....) but my question is.....can i still carry my 2.5oz nose drops/spray (used to help clear my sinuses & pop my ears) in my briefcase or is this one of the "declared items". my crazy rationale is that once i'm past the checkpoint, everything in my baggie gets removed and put in my toiltery case in my wheels and stored in the overhead and i'd rather leave the nose drops in the briefcase as that sits under the seat in frnt of me. just curious and sorry for such a silly question (and fwiw, the nose drops live in my briefcase and were never looked at with a "bag check" during either the full or modified (pre 30z rules))
forgive me but as goalie-sis would say, i'm having a bald moment....
in between the full liquid ban and the recenetly revised "3oz"limit, i was allowed to carry nose drops/spray in my briefcase as long as it was less than 4oz. i'm all set to go this w/e with my baggie and 3oz or less containers (btw, edge shaving cream travel size is 2.75 oz but i digress....) but my question is.....can i still carry my 2.5oz nose drops/spray (used to help clear my sinuses & pop my ears) in my briefcase or is this one of the "declared items". my crazy rationale is that once i'm past the checkpoint, everything in my baggie gets removed and put in my toiltery case in my wheels and stored in the overhead and i'd rather leave the nose drops in the briefcase as that sits under the seat in frnt of me. just curious and sorry for such a silly question (and fwiw, the nose drops live in my briefcase and were never looked at with a "bag check" during either the full or modified (pre 30z rules))