TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
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Originally Posted by iluv2fly
Will we have to put our baggie in a separate bin a la the laptop rule?
Perhaps Congress should authorize a Department of Ziplock Security?
Perhaps Congress should authorize a Department of Ziplock Security?
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Yes. Safety razors weren't even prohibited following September 11, 2001.
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There is an exception for "beverages purchased after screening" but not for toothpaste or other toiletries larger than 3 oz. I am probably overthinking this, but it looks like the TSA still prohibits you from buying larger quantities of liquid toiletries airside and then boarding the plane.
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Originally Posted by SuzanneSLO
There is an exception for "beverages purchased after screening" but not for toothpaste or other toiletries larger than 3 oz. I am probably overthinking this, but it looks like the TSA still prohibits you from buying larger quantities of liquid toiletries airside and then boarding the plane.
Seems to me if that is so, they still might be on the losing end of this charade economically.
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Originally Posted by SuzanneSLO
There is an exception for "beverages purchased after screening" but not for toothpaste or other toiletries larger than 3 oz. I am probably overthinking this, but it looks like the TSA still prohibits you from buying larger quantities of liquid toiletries airside and then boarding the plane.
Once you're free of their clutches, you can buy as much stuff as you can lug onto the aircraft.
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Folks -- Before you run out and dutifully buy this stuff in Chertoff-approved 3oz containers like compliant American Sheople, compare the apples-to-apples cost per unit of the TSA-approved size and the 55-gallon drums of the same stuff in the regular cosmetics aisle. The price difference per unit is enormous. Shampoo and listerine and, I suspect, some women's cosmetics are easily refillable. Toothpaste and deordorant are a bit more problematic. I haven't tried refilling a toothpaste tube yet, but there's always a first time.
All of the airport vendors will be pushing their "fly-away" kits at mega-bucks. Woe to anybody who actually buys stuff. Using the Spiff boycott approach, I suspect the loss of airside vendor revenue following 8/10 may have had more to do with yesterday's pronouncement than the TSA will ever admit. If there is no appreciable increase in revenue as of yesterday, we will send the message that Hawley hasn't gone far enough.
All of the airport vendors will be pushing their "fly-away" kits at mega-bucks. Woe to anybody who actually buys stuff. Using the Spiff boycott approach, I suspect the loss of airside vendor revenue following 8/10 may have had more to do with yesterday's pronouncement than the TSA will ever admit. If there is no appreciable increase in revenue as of yesterday, we will send the message that Hawley hasn't gone far enough.
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Originally Posted by Bart
All liquids, gels and aerosols purchased in the sterile area, regardless of size, are permitted aboard the aircraft.
If anything, what we submit for screening is more likely to receive closer scrutiny than big boxes of toothpaste or water brought in on a pallette.
So what's the hub-bub about size?
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Originally Posted by Bart
It's actually a one-quart size sealable plastic bag. I used the term "ziplock" because people can easily picture what I'm talking about. However, the requirement is that the items be placed in a plastic bag as opposed to inside an open toiletry bag.
As long as the bag can be sealed. It does not have to be a ziplock, per se. What matters is that it be no larger than a 1 quart bag, so a smaller bag is acceptable.
Thanks. I imagine that TSA nationwide will go through some "growing pains" making all the adjustments with these new procedures. By the time I come back, it will be a somewhat controlled chaos as opposed to total chaos.
As long as the bag can be sealed. It does not have to be a ziplock, per se. What matters is that it be no larger than a 1 quart bag, so a smaller bag is acceptable.
Thanks. I imagine that TSA nationwide will go through some "growing pains" making all the adjustments with these new procedures. By the time I come back, it will be a somewhat controlled chaos as opposed to total chaos.

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Originally Posted by Bart
They should be fine. I'd be interested in finding out how it works out.
I actually tried to call the TSA traveler help line to see if I could get clarification and some assurance that my tiny self-labeled bottles would be okay. Wanna know what happened?
The "thanks for calling us" message still says no liquids or gels are allowed in checked baggage. They said "extensive" information was available on the TSA web site. There were 56 people ahead of me and my wait time was expected to be less than 47 minutes. And no, I'm not waiting. LOL
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I am still confused
Originally Posted by LLM
Thx, Bart. Fortunately, all of my "contraband" fit into the one quart ziplock I purchased at the supermarket today. Just to confirm, my previously allowed solid deodorant, chapstick, eye drops, etc can stay where they were in my luggage or purse and only the lip gloss, lotion, daily wear lenses, etc get presented in the ziplock?
I have a request, I haven't seen if this question was answered or not and since I am at a client site working this week
I don't have the time or the ability to read all the hundreds of answers on these threads. Can this question be reanswered even if it already was? My main question is... do the items that I was already able to bring in my carryon (solid deoderant, contact lens solution, eye drops, etc) now have to be placed in a quart size baggie or can they still stay in my 20inch roller?Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Traveller
My main question is... do the items that I was already able to bring in my carryon (solid deoderant, contact lens solution, eye drops, etc) now have to be placed in a quart size baggie or can they still stay in my 20inch roller?
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Originally Posted by GeoGirl
Great! I've started repackaging my toiletries into these little containers. I found some tiny bottles, too, like .25 oz, which is all I need for a single day trip. The only thing that really worries me is if they decide they don't like my homemade labeled bottles. What if they don't like it and I have to leave it behind? I'll be left completely without products.

