TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Sep 25, 2006 | 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by kaukau
Hi GUWonder! It may just feel good like when you stop hitting your head against the wall, but it feels good nonetheless!
Or would you rather still have the original post 8/10 rules still in place? I wouldn't.
Sep 25, 2006 | 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by scottmlew
Is the 3oz restriction based on the capacity of the container or the contents? For example, say I have a 6oz cologne bottle that is clearly less than half full. Is this ok? The same might apply with a container of gel deodorant (do they make it in 3oz or lower capacities?)
You have to have a bottle that has a commercially printed label on it?
Sep 25, 2006 | 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
1. You can now bring liquids, gels and aerosols but they have to be in 3 oz containers. In other words, the travel size items are now permitted. You are limited to whatever you can pack inside a quart-size clear plastic bag; in other words, a slightly larger than a sandwich size ziplock bag. You will need to separate this ziplock bag from your carry-on and have it x-rayed separately.
... We will no longer have a gate team to randomly inspect flights.
... We will no longer have a gate team to randomly inspect flights.
1) Does anyone find it foolish they are x-raying liquids and gels (apart from everything else, of course)? X-ray imaging is unable to discern meaningful differences among fluids. This just seems nonsensical.
2) While I applaud the departure of the stupid gate checks, I wonder if it's a good idea to publicly announce that. Note, I find no efficacy to them whatsoever, but leaving them open as an avenue of screening does have its advantages from the TSA perspective.
Sep 25, 2006 | 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by kaukau
They must see a 3 oz or less label on the bottle. Many, many commercial travel size cosmetic products are packaged at 3 oz. I suggest re-packaging your cologne into a smaller re-used 3 oz. container.
Is another person now dedicated to re-arranging the contents inside the bag and then reading it? Because my bag won't be neatly arranged, labels up, like they are in the posed TSA photo. Nor will the 87 people behind me.
And since the x-ray machine doesn't do "English," who's taken away from spotting terrarists' behaviors in order to read labels with 4pt font size markings?
And do I have to give them my reading glasses so they can see the print?
Sep 25, 2006 | 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by PHLbuddy
As always, thanks for the updates, Bart.
1) Does anyone find it foolish they are x-raying liquids and gels (apart from everything else, of course)? X-ray imaging is unable to discern meaningful differences among fluids. This just seems nonsensical.
2) While I applaud the departure of the stupid gate checks, I wonder if it's a good idea to publicly announce that. Note, I find no efficacy to them whatsoever, but leaving them open as an avenue of screening does have its advantages from the TSA perspective.
1) Does anyone find it foolish they are x-raying liquids and gels (apart from everything else, of course)? X-ray imaging is unable to discern meaningful differences among fluids. This just seems nonsensical.
2) While I applaud the departure of the stupid gate checks, I wonder if it's a good idea to publicly announce that. Note, I find no efficacy to them whatsoever, but leaving them open as an avenue of screening does have its advantages from the TSA perspective.
- Alan
Sep 25, 2006 | 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaRebel
Gate checks have always been an option for TSA. I have seen them only VERY sporadically before 8/10 (maybe one every three months), but they did occur. I would assume that they could still take place.
- Alan
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Sep 25, 2006 | 2:56 pm
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Question for Bart
Bart,
First, thank you for providing such useful information! I know it's made my travel easier and more efficient to know what to expect in advance.
Second...am I correct that I can now carry lip gloss and bottled water (bought inside security) on the plane? And also small hand cream in a 3 oz bottle? Can you confirm what others have said, that the bottles need to be printed with "3 oz" on them?
Thanks!
GG
First, thank you for providing such useful information! I know it's made my travel easier and more efficient to know what to expect in advance.
Second...am I correct that I can now carry lip gloss and bottled water (bought inside security) on the plane? And also small hand cream in a 3 oz bottle? Can you confirm what others have said, that the bottles need to be printed with "3 oz" on them?
Thanks!
GG
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:15 pm
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In situations where a bottle that is larger than 3oz contains liquid it will be up to a supervisor to decide whether or not it can go. However, in the future you will be asked to declare what liquids you are transporting to the TSO, so... there's a whole slew of other (questionable) rules going into effect that I trust you'll all get a real kick out of...
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by DallasBill
Bart at post #487 this morning: "We will no longer have a gate team to randomly inspect flights."
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by DallasBill
Bart at post #487 this morning: "We will no longer have a gate team to randomly inspect flights."
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Are Hawley and Chertoff really promising that we will no longer have any gate-side screenings?
) contains Hawley all but admitting that there will not be gate screenings.He really struggles though to give up on his precious gate gropes, saying "we will do a number of random inspections . . . including in the gate area," "but it will not be a regular practice."
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by GimmeLegRoom
I thinking (and hoping) that contact lens solution still falls in the category of:
"b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate."
I'm sure there will be a ton of confusion, and the 3 oz/4 oz difference will mess people up. The smaller size of no-rub lens solution usually comes in a 4oz bottle.
"b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate."
I'm sure there will be a ton of confusion, and the 3 oz/4 oz difference will mess people up. The smaller size of no-rub lens solution usually comes in a 4oz bottle.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...d-items.shtm#1
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I didn't realize Chertoff was a wall; that is, his ears still conduct the sounds that are words.
Sep 25, 2006 | 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by studentff
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Are Hawley and Chertoff really promising that we will no longer have any gate-side screenings?
) contains Hawley all but admitting that there will not be gate screenings.He really struggles though to give up on his precious gate gropes, saying "we will do a number of random inspections . . . including in the gate area," "but it will not be a regular practice."