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To me it looks like a nightmare of delays and distraction to have to write a silly little note (that is then checked by who?) and wrap it around the container. Not only will this slow down lines, but if implemented as shown in the video, it will completely tie up a screener at each lane. And I can't think of anything that this procedure adds to security.
This is inane and yet another thing they want the airports to support that they are not configured or set-up to handle....the back ups from this insanity are going to be enormous. I know at places like IAD, there isn't all that much space between the scanner lines and the id checker lines to put those tables.Originally Posted by studentff
The procedure Bart is describing is demonstrated in two videos posted on tsa.gov here and here . To me it looks like a nightmare of delays and distraction to have to write a silly little note (that is then checked by who?) and wrap it around the container. Not only will this slow down lines, but if implemented as shown in the video, it will completely tie up a screener at each lane. And I can't think of anything that this procedure adds to security.
Now it's a matter of finding the fastest writer in addition to the shortest line to get through the scanners. TSA - stupidity at its best :Mad:
Just wait, soon TSA is going to ask for a few extra billion dollars from Congress to pay for their (unseen) needs for pens, paper and plastic baggies.
I have some very heavy duty plastic bags I use in my business that are one quart capacity, but are a different shape than the square Zip Lock/Glad bags. They are long and skinny, rectangular, but they are one quart. Will TSA accept these? Is the mil strength of the bag going to be checked? Are the screeners going to do the mathematical calculation to prove the capacity of the bag is one quart?
What happens if my husband and I put both of our plastic baggies of little bottles in the same plastic bin for screening? How would the screener know that one was mine and one was his, not that both were mine? What happens if you have 2 baggies of little bottles?
What happens if my husband and I put both of our plastic baggies of little bottles in the same plastic bin for screening? How would the screener know that one was mine and one was his, not that both were mine? What happens if you have 2 baggies of little bottles?
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Just wait, soon TSA is going to ask for a few extra billion dollars from Congress to pay for their (unseen) needs for pens, paper and plastic baggies.
You must provide your own baggie, Citizen. We only provide the rules for the dimensions of the baggie.Originally Posted by GoingAway
Just wait, soon TSA is going to ask for a few extra billion dollars from Congress to pay for their (unseen) needs for pens, paper and plastic baggies.
If you read the instructions word for word it never says you can't have more than one baggy per person .....
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NO
Is the mil strength of the bag going to be checked?
NO
Are the screeners going to do the mathematical calculation to prove the capacity of the bag is one quart?
NO
What happens if my husband and I put both of our plastic baggies of little bottles in the same plastic bin for screening?
Please use your own bin(s)
How would the screener know that one was mine and one was his, not that both were mine?
They will ask you all appropriate questions.
What happens if you have 2 baggies of little bottles?
You may only bring one on-board.Originally Posted by susiesan
I have some very heavy duty plastic bags I use in my business that are one quart capacity, but are a different shape than the square Zip Lock/Glad bags. They are long and skinny, rectangular, but they are one quart. Will TSA accept these? NO
Is the mil strength of the bag going to be checked?
NO
Are the screeners going to do the mathematical calculation to prove the capacity of the bag is one quart?
NO
What happens if my husband and I put both of our plastic baggies of little bottles in the same plastic bin for screening?
Please use your own bin(s)
How would the screener know that one was mine and one was his, not that both were mine?
They will ask you all appropriate questions.
What happens if you have 2 baggies of little bottles?
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That would assume the experts Originally Posted by studentff
The paranoid side of me fears TSA will use the delays created by this part of the procedure to justify returning to a total liquid ban.
at TSA HQ to be capable of thinking beyond the next few hours. If it took them 6 weeks to come up with this solution (sic, no pun), I don't expect them to be able to decide that it's "not working" for considerably longer than that.Quote:
Limit quantities to what is needed for the duration of the flight.
Aha ! More opportunities for screener umm... discretion. "Too much shampoo - do you want to fly today ?".Limit quantities to what is needed for the duration of the flight.
Who uses shampoo* in the "duration of the flight" anyway ?
* as illustrated in the TSA's sample baggie
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Where does it say that? I can only find where it says that your 3oz container needs to fit in a single bag?Originally Posted by kaukau
You may only bring one on-board.
capacity vs contents?
Is the 3oz restriction based on the capacity of the container or the contents? For example, say I have a 6oz cologne bottle that is clearly less than half full. Is this ok? The same might apply with a container of gel deodorant (do they make it in 3oz or lower capacities?)
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I think many people voice their pedantic pedagoguery quite freely here.Originally Posted by kaukau
I'm with you on the pedantics, but not the pedagoguery.
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They must see a 3 oz or less label on the bottle. Many, many commercial travel size cosmetic products are packaged at 3 oz. I suggest re-packaging your cologne into a smaller re-used 3 oz. container.Originally Posted by scottmlew
Is the 3oz restriction based on the capacity of the container or the contents? For example, say I have a 6oz cologne bottle that is clearly less than half full. Is this ok? The same might apply with a container of gel deodorant (do they make it in 3oz or lower capacities?)
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Oh no - in looking at my little bottles of lotion and stuff from the hotels they are clearly less that 3oz - but there's no size labels .......Originally Posted by kaukau
They must see a 3 oz or less label on the bottle. Many, many commercial travel size cosmetic products are packaged at 3 oz. I suggest re-packaging your cologne into a smaller re-used 3 oz. container.
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Containers from most countries on this planet don't display any "oz", they display ml or grams. Not to mention that a British fl. oz. is different from a U.S. fl. oz., emphasizing the medieval character of this great new carnival.Originally Posted by kaukau
They must see a 3 oz or less label on the bottle. Many, many commercial travel size cosmetic products are packaged at 3 oz. I suggest re-packaging your cologne into a smaller re-used 3 oz. container.
So now I have to buy products from another country as well???? 
This is very troubling!
This is very troubling!