TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Sep 25, 2006 | 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate.
Important medicines shouldn't be checked, especially if there's no way to replace them at the destination. As far as I'm concerned, "reasonably adequate" includes enough for the whole trip + some reserve.
For our usual trips to visit her relatives that means packing 1,440ml of liquid. Considering it's packing material (it comes packed in 5ml ampoules) it's about 1/3 of a rollaboard.
Replacement at the destination would be all but impossible.
Sep 25, 2006 | 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Comrade Chertoff and Half-wit Hawley can still go straight to hell.
Illogical risk avoidance rather than sensible risk management rules the roost at the Terrorism Support Agency.
Illogical risk avoidance rather than sensible risk management rules the roost at the Terrorism Support Agency.
Sep 25, 2006 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by DallasBill
So, the contact lens solution that I could carry before now has to be packed separately from the one quart bag...
"b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate."
I'm sure there will be a ton of confusion, and the 3 oz/4 oz difference will mess people up. The smaller size of no-rub lens solution usually comes in a 4oz bottle.
Sep 25, 2006 | 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by nrgiii
We have a saying in 12 step recovery: Progress, not perfection. To me, this latest change fits squarely in that category.
Instead of p*ssing and moaning on this forum, where it does no good, why don't you write your Congressmen and the TSA? Oh yeah, right. Complaining in a public forum like this doesn't solve anything, but it sure does make *you* feel better. Post whatever snappy comebacks you like, but you know it's true.
On behalf of many FT'ers, shut up already....
Instead of p*ssing and moaning on this forum, where it does no good, why don't you write your Congressmen and the TSA? Oh yeah, right. Complaining in a public forum like this doesn't solve anything, but it sure does make *you* feel better. Post whatever snappy comebacks you like, but you know it's true.
On behalf of many FT'ers, shut up already....
I await your apology.
Sep 25, 2006 | 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by nrgiii
On behalf of many FT'ers, shut up already....
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by GimmeLegRoom
I thinking (and hoping) that contact lens solution still falls in the category of:
"b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate."
I'm sure there will be a ton of confusion, and the 3 oz/4 oz difference will mess people up. The smaller size of no-rub lens solution usually comes in a 4oz bottle.
"b. Prescription and essential non-prescription medicines; again, no size restrictions; and again, commensurate with what is reasonably adequate."
I'm sure there will be a ton of confusion, and the 3 oz/4 oz difference will mess people up. The smaller size of no-rub lens solution usually comes in a 4oz bottle.
At least from the standpoint of the no-rub solution. Just go to your eye doctor and ask for the sample size version of your no-rub. Those come in 2oz. containers.
I have mine in prescription (thanks to my Dr.) form, so the limit doesn't apply to those.
As for the reasonable size on the prescription medicine. From what I understand if it is in the bottle that you get from the pharmacy with the label attached you are fine. That is by definition reasonable, because that is the only legal way to carry the item after it was dispenced. As for the non-prescription essential liquids I have a feeling that TSA will use the smallest commercial size offered. If my experience yesterday at DTW is any indication, the staff there have a list of OTC liquids commonly found. It was about three pages worth and had both the name of the product and package sizes commonly found. The screener questioned my lens solution, and even the prescription because it was listed in the OTC sheets as OTC not prescription. He let it through as a prescription, but made a comment that as of tomorrow it is not going to matter. He said they were all going to be treated the same. So that has me wondering if some airports are going to look at the one bag thing as including the prescriptions as well.
SO I guess we can look forward to ziplock bag carnival. Of course will I be turned away if I use a hefty one zip bag instead?
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:05 am
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Does anyone know if the one quart zip top bag has to have the plastic slider or is it ok to use the old fashioned zip lock bags that just zip together (without the plastic slider shown in the TSA press release photo)?
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
2. The other exceptions to the current liquids, gels and aerosol rule still applies; however, you now have to declare these items and also have these items x-rayed separately. A TSO will record these declared items on the reverse side of the boarding pass. These exceptions are:
To me it looks like a nightmare of delays and distraction to have to write a silly little note (that is then checked by who?) and wrap it around the container. Not only will this slow down lines, but if implemented as shown in the video, it will completely tie up a screener at each lane. And I can't think of anything that this procedure adds to security.
The paranoid side of me fears TSA will use the delays created by this part of the procedure to justify returning to a total liquid ban. The new ziplock-baggie thing will not create substantial delays, but this declaration policy will.
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:16 am
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Sep 25, 2006 | 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by nrgiii
We have a saying in 12 step recovery: Progress, not perfection. To me, this latest change fits squarely in that category.
Instead of p*ssing and moaning on this forum, where it does no good, why don't you write your Congressmen and the TSA? Oh yeah, right. Complaining in a public forum like this doesn't solve anything, but it sure does make *you* feel better. Post whatever snappy comebacks you like, but you know it's true.
On behalf of many FT'ers, shut up already....
Instead of p*ssing and moaning on this forum, where it does no good, why don't you write your Congressmen and the TSA? Oh yeah, right. Complaining in a public forum like this doesn't solve anything, but it sure does make *you* feel better. Post whatever snappy comebacks you like, but you know it's true.
On behalf of many FT'ers, shut up already....
Sep 25, 2006 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Does anyone know if the one quart zip top bag has to have the plastic slider or is it ok to use the old fashioned zip lock bags that just zip together (without the plastic slider shown in the TSA press release photo)?