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milepig May 13, 2016 7:27 am


Originally Posted by BThumme (Post 26617973)
Anyone see this video of the line from Midway? Yikes!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUV...ature=youtu.be

Yeah. Total meltdown at MDW yesterday afternoon. Lines all the way back into the hall leading to the CTA station. Has to be either labor action or understaffing.

HawaiiTrvlr May 13, 2016 7:40 am


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 26617240)
On NBC Nightly News, 35% of new screeners leave in the first year. (Sorry, no link yet.) Also 117 leave a week, not 103 as previously reported. Nightly News pushing Pre with nary a word about all the complaints about the "program."

I wonder if there is a company in the private sector that has an attrition high as the TSA.

Boggie Dog May 13, 2016 8:41 am

Long waits for TSA screening along with all the other apparent TSA issues might help to bring an end to TSA as we know it. If the public can tough it out for a short time the outcome might be worth it.

RockyMtnScotsman May 13, 2016 8:51 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26619906)
Long waits for TSA screening along with all the other apparent TSA issues might help to bring an end to TSA as we know it. If the public can tough it out for a short time the outcome might be worth it.

I wouldn't bet on it. In fact, I'd wager just the opposite - that their funding will grow immensely to "address the problem".

BThumme May 13, 2016 10:08 am


Originally Posted by RockyMtnScotsman (Post 26619955)
I wouldn't bet on it. In fact, I'd wager just the opposite - that their funding will grow immensely to "address the problem".

Indeed

petaluma1 May 13, 2016 10:59 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 26619906)
Long waits for TSA screening along with all the other apparent TSA issues might help to bring an end to TSA as we know it. If the public can tough it out for a short time the outcome might be worth it.


Originally Posted by RockyMtnScotsman (Post 26619955)
I wouldn't bet on it. In fact, I'd wager just the opposite - that their funding will grow immensely to "address the problem".

I think there might be some changes that will benefit passengers, but at the same time I think TSA will also get a boat-load more funding to squander.

mikeef May 13, 2016 11:32 am

Well, that's the least they could do. No, seriously: There is no action that they could have taken that would have required less effort. And given that they need the government, they won't do anything to tick it off until their pocketbooks start getting hit.


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 26615991)
Reports are beginning to surface that lines are so backed up that TSA isn't using body scanners or requiring that shoes be off/liquids of carry-ons in order to speed things up.

Hang on, hang on, no liquid checks for imaginary explosives? Is it still safe to fly? How am I supposed to know for sure that that 83-year old woman actually needs to be in a wheelchair and isn't just a terrorist trying to smuggle through a bomb in her shoe?

Mike

gingersnaps May 13, 2016 11:45 am


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 26615991)
Reports are beginning to surface that lines are so backed up that TSA isn't using body scanners or requiring that shoes be off/liquids of carry-ons in order to speed things up.

You mean Real Time Threat Assesment aka Managed Includion 1?

What you posted is everyday operation of Managed Inclusion I. Remember ONLY Managed Inclusion II was canceled.

More dogs,presumably for conducting Managed Inclusion, has been reported for weeks in National and local media.

And yes the dogs are most certainly for the purpose to speed things up.

chollie May 13, 2016 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 26620746)
Well, that's the least they could do. No, seriously: There is no action that they could have taken that would have required less effort. And given that they need the government, they won't do anything to tick it off until their pocketbooks start getting hit.

From comments I've seen, some of the airlines are making a minor windfall out of this in rebooking fees.



Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 26620746)
Hang on, hang on, no liquid checks for imaginary explosives? Is it still safe to fly? How am I supposed to know for sure that that 83-year old woman actually needs to be in a wheelchair and isn't just a terrorist trying to smuggle through a bomb in her shoe?

Mike

Come on, Mike. An 83-year-old woman in a wheelchair would never hide something nasty in her shoes. 'Everyone' (aka TSA) knows she'd put it in her bosom or near her genitals.

Boggie Dog May 13, 2016 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by gingersnaps (Post 26620825)
You mean Real Time Threat Assesment aka Managed Includion 1?

What you posted is everyday operation of Managed Inclusion I. Remember ONLY Managed Inclusion II was canceled.

More dogs,presumably for conducting Managed Inclusion, has been reported for weeks in National and local media.

And yes the dogs are most certainly for the purpose to speed things up.

Wife and I have both been selected for Pre last Sunday and today before arriving at the airport. Some form of Managed Inclusion is in play that does not depend on dogs or bdo's.

BSBD May 13, 2016 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 26620954)
Come on, Mike. An 83-year-old woman in a wheelchair would never hide something nasty in her shoes. 'Everyone' (aka TSA) knows she'd put it in her bosom or near her genitals.

This morning in MIA I was going through the PreCheck line. A woman in front of me got the "random quota" beep, and was sent to the scanner. As I was collecting my carry-on luggage from the x-Ray chute, I heard the TSO manning the scanner tell the woman that she would have to wait post-scanner for female assist. The woman loudly burst into tears.

I looked back as I was moving away, and the scanner monitor with the gumby image clearly showed a single "anomaly" centered right on gumby's crotch. I felt bad for the woman, because we all know what was about to happen to her :(

mikeef May 13, 2016 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 26620954)
From comments I've seen, some of the airlines are making a minor windfall out of this in rebooking fees.




Come on, Mike. An 83-year-old woman in a wheelchair would never hide something nasty in her shoes. 'Everyone' (aka TSA) knows she'd put it in her bosom or near her genitals.

Sadly, you are likely correct on both counts.

Mike

petaluma1 May 13, 2016 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 26621077)
This morning in MIA I was going through the PreCheck line. A woman in front of me got the "random quota" beep, and was sent to the scanner. As I was collecting my carry-on luggage from the x-Ray chute, I heard the TSO manning the scanner tell the woman that she would have to wait post-scanner for female assist. The woman loudly burst into tears.

I looked back as I was moving away, and the scanner monitor with the gumby image clearly showed a single "anomaly" centered right on gumby's crotch. I felt bad for the woman, because we all know what was about to happen to her :(

From what I have been reading on AskTSA, crotch anomalies are commonplace. Could she have been transgender? That accounts for some of them, but not all. TSA needs to figure out why scanners on alarming on crotchhes and fix it.

BTW, Peter Greenberg on WCBS this a.m. said that TSA will not have enough new screeners trained to ease travel this summer - which we all know - but this was the first time I'd heard anyone "official" say anything. It's something that needs to be said more often.

Boggie Dog May 13, 2016 1:43 pm

At LAS C gates. Crowd very reasonable. I glanced at checkpoint for D gates and had major waits. Night and day.

GUWonder May 13, 2016 2:00 pm

The TSA head is scamming the public. He claims that the current wait times are a result of what he inherited and too little staffing.

The TSA line waits didn't become so bad so quickly because of what happened two years ago or earlier with TSA staffing levels.

Neff's a bozo, and I can't take seriously any insinuation that this rather big and sudden increase in wait times is due to things beyond decisions he made and advanced across the board.


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