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Originally Posted by cubs105
(Post 26635010)
When I was flying out of a small regional airport yesterday the ID checker was intentionally slowing down the line, every time he checked an ID he would pause, grab his phone and do something on it. After a few a minute or two he would motion the next person to come forward and do the same song and dance.
When it came time for the screening the TSO said please wait while the machine warms up. What used to take 5 minutes at most took 45 minutes at my home airport. Supposedly this is happening everywhere and the rumors going around is that orders came from the top to slow down and make people wait. Coincidence? |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26636385)
Neither are some of the mainstream news sources. Each individual should evaluate a story for themselves.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26640102)
Yes, Skylink connects all terminals post security. Not sure how TSA would react to entering a A and then going to D.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 26640308)
Infowars is far worse than any mainstream source I'm aware of.
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Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 26635887)
Lots of parents don't think it through; they're convinced that having their kids' fingerprints taken is some kind of a hedge against abduction. The faulty reasoning is, "if someone steals my child, the fingerprints will prove it's mine and I'll get it back!" The fault in that, of course, is that if you need fingerprints to identify a child, it's either because the child is too young to identify their own parents, is non-verbal due to a condition such as autism, or because the child is dead. But parents simply don't think that way. They just think, fingerprints = safety.
I think that if, entity forbid, something ever happens to my child there will be a way to easily identify my child, instead of my child just ending up another unidentified body and leaving me never knowing what happened to my child. Same reason why I get my child a state ID. If he/she goes missing, a picture and accurate description will immediately be available to all law enforcement officers. I don't have to go find one and then email it to someone who then forwards it to everyone. It's just a matter of practical logistics. |
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Originally Posted by TWA884
(Post 26636809)
Please stay on topic (FT Rule 5), that is: Long TSA Lines.
If you wish to discuss the merits of enrolling kids in PreCheck or the wisdom of fingerprinting them, please start a new thread. Thank you, TWA884 Co-moderator, Travel Safety/Security |
Neffenger today on the mess at ORD:
"We had a significant challenge in Chicago yesterday," Neffenger said. "I don't know what that was, but fixing that, that is of great concern to me.... Neffenger and his boss, Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, promised Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Tuesday that more than 300 extra TSA officers will be assigned to Chicago's airports by mid-August — 58 of them within the next three weeks. One hundred more part-time workers in Chicago will be promoted to full time, Emanuel said. He doesn't KNOW what caused the mess in Chicago????? But he's going to fix it. SMH |
Originally Posted by CBear
(Post 26640233)
At my very small local airport with only one checkpoint, a mysterious equipment breakdown on a Thursday morning led to all carry on bags being manually searched until Monday morning.
Coincidence? Whether it's the anticipated slowdown, or whether there's a directive from TSA management to slow things down, or whether the TSA workers' union is piling on by telling the workers to add to the slowdown is the question. My opinion is that all three are in play. IMO this the only explanation for why there is a national issue, plus local/regional slowdown incidents when there is local/regional criticism. I first noticed this in ATL. The day after the ATL airport authority criticized the TSA earlier this year, there was (to my eye) a clear slowdown on the part of all of the TSA workers I saw. The only solution I see at this point is to get rid of TSA and find another solution for airport access security. Unfortunately I don't think our lawmakers have the fortitude or the intelligence to do that. My congresswoman certainly doesn't - I am not sure she even wants to understand what's going on. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26640335)
Your opinion.
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Originally Posted by BSBD
(Post 26641218)
There's absolutely no doubt that a slowdown is taking place.
Whether it's the anticipated slowdown, or whether there's a directive from TSA management to slow things down, or whether the TSA workers' union is piling on by telling the workers to add to the slowdown is the question. My opinion is that all three are in play. IMO this the only explanation for why there is a national issue, plus local/regional slowdown incidents when there is local/regional criticism. I first noticed this in ATL. The day after the ATL airport authority criticized the TSA earlier this year, there was (to my eye) a clear slowdown on the part of all of the TSA workers I saw. The only solution I see at this point is to get rid of TSA and find another solution for airport access security. Unfortunately I don't think our lawmakers have the fortitude or the intelligence to do that. My congresswoman certainly doesn't - I am not sure she even wants to understand what's going on. Federal law prohibits our officers from engaging in work slowdowns or sick-outs. |
Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 26641199)
Neffenger today on the mess at ORD:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...o-hare-n575701 He doesn't KNOW what caused the mess in Chicago????? But he's going to fix it. SMH Three hundred screeners (new hires) are going to ORD/MDW by August. I thought the total number of screeners Neffy asked for was <800. Once again, somebody's playing fast and loose with numbers. Interesting that he asked for (and got) authority to pay overtime, but he choose to ignore the cheaper route of making part-timers full-time, which can have an immediate impact. He doesn't know what caused the mess - has he not been paying attention? Did he think things were acceptable up until yesterday? Was he going to ask anyone for an update on what's going on? Or was he just going to hunker down and hope Congress won't notice. :rolleyes: Maybe he tweeted AskTSA for an update, was given the usual answer about problems being addressed, bla-bla, and believed it. |
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 26641283)
Sooo...
Three hundred screeners (new hires) are going to ORD/MDW by August. I thought the total number of screeners Neffy asked for was <800. Once again, somebody's playing fast and loose with numbers. Interesting that he asked for (and got) authority to pay overtime, but he choose to ignore the cheaper route of making part-timers full-time, which can have an immediate impact. He doesn't know what caused the mess - has he not been paying attention? Did he think things were acceptable up until yesterday? Was he going to ask anyone for an update on what's going on? Or was he just going to hunker down and hope Congress won't notice. :rolleyes: Maybe he tweeted AskTSA for an update, was given the usual answer about problems being addressed, bla-bla, and believed it. |
Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 26641297)
In the article, Emanuel says that part-timers are being upgraded to full time.
Neffy's still not desperate enough to suggest putting LTSOs and STSOs to work or to ban cellphone use and private conversations at the checkpoints. No one at TSA seems interested in asking why the retention rate is so abysmal. HQ wants to assume that the problem must be money, but I suspect if they asked employees why they are leaving (and actually listened to the answers), they would find out that the money isn't the issue. Good people care about working conditions, as well as salary/perks, and they have other options. |
Neffenger appears clueless and is part of the problem. TSA screening protocols are to severe for the threat. The massive backup of people at TSA Checpoints present an excellent high value target of opportunity making TSA part of the threat they are trying to interdict.
The level of screening is wrong, the method of screening is wrong, and the public will suffer from TSA's rejection of addressing the actual threat. TSA presents a larger threat than the terrorist. |
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 26641305)
No reason is given for why things had to get this bad. All this stupidity about new hires that are useless until they've gotten their play dates at the academy, when they've got large numbers of part-timers that are already trained and ready to work.
Neffy's still not desperate enough to suggest putting LTSOs and STSOs to work or to ban cellphone use and private conversations at the checkpoints. No one at TSA seems interested in asking why the retention rate is so abysmal. HQ wants to assume that the problem must be money, but I suspect if they asked employees why they are leaving (and actually listened to the answers), they would find out that the money isn't the issue. Good people care about working conditions, as well as salary/perks, and they have other options. All management level TSA employees (FSD and down) should be required to be at checkpoints half of every day until the problems are solved. |
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