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Originally Posted by wolf72
(Post 26627508)
Question. The volume of passenger's going through major american airports vs other global airport's around the world.
Why do you see these sort's of long waits and lines when other busy airports around the world don't have this problem and are able to allow for a good flow of passengers through both immigration AND security checks without these mega long and crazy waits to go through security screening? Is it because the officer at each check point has a longer procedure to go through in order to vet a passenger is clear to pass or....??? In non-US airports, in my experience:
As a consequence, my wait times at airports in the last few weeks (from joining the queue to departing the checkpoint): Domestic: SYD: 30 seconds CBR: 1.5 minutes (including random ETD) International: SYD: 3 minutes - 6 passengers ahead of me. DXB: 4 minutes - no passengers but I got a grope for having a metal hip. GVA: 3 minutes - 4 passengers and I got a quick grope. DXB: 2 minutes - no passengers and a very cursory grope.
Originally Posted by wolf72
(Post 26627508)
Something is very wrong with the TSA system...
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 26637235)
The answer is partly the process and partly the staff effectiveness.
In non-US airports, in my experience:
As a consequence, my wait times at airports in the last few weeks (from joining the queue to departing the checkpoint): Domestic: SYD: 30 seconds CBR: 1.5 minutes (including random ETD) International: SYD: 3 minutes - 6 passengers ahead of me. DXB: 4 minutes - no passengers but I got a grope for having a metal hip. GVA: 3 minutes - 4 passengers and I got a quick grope. DXB: 2 minutes - no passengers and a very cursory grope. This is the biggest understatement on FT. ;) I don't want to sound silly by asking this of the many of you who do go through this crazy security check system but...do you think things could be better if the TSA were not cracking down on checking every single piece of thread, every single item carried in your in flight luggage, etc and a lack of common sense that should be there in the first place? It is surely hurting the tourism industry and domestic travel when they are going over board the way they are and are causing massive lines but don't have the manpower to cope, etc. I realize my comments may not be appreciated by some given what transpired in the past 15 year's ago but if the X-Ray's are that good now day's and the screening machines are that advanced now days, why do they need to cause these sort's of problems. It just sounds insane. |
So having dogs sniff passengers (plus belongings) is but a way to pack in the PreCheck lines with people who don't have PreCheck LLL indicators on their boarding pass? If so, then that may mean the PreCheck line gets longer and slower while the non-PreCheck line gets shorter but still takes a long time.
If having dogs sniff passengers (plus belongings) is a way to cut back on use of strip-search machines and ETD swabbing of as many passengers+belongings, then the non-PreCheck line may speed up a little bit. I've seen a lot of restless dogs being used for various "security" purposes. A lot of them don't do very well standing in one position and smelling everyone who passes by. If this means that passengers have to create room for the dogs to walk by, the screening lines may end up getting longer even while the line moves faster. The TSA really is a joke on so many levels, and these screening lines are just a sign of that. |
Originally Posted by BSBD
(Post 26636000)
Well, that's not the case at all. It was clear almost a year ago that this would happen.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...y-holes-120117 The current plan, McCaul said, is for DHS to update the imaging machines’ software. and The main problem, many lawmakers say, is TSA’s “managed inclusion” policy of giving that special treatment to travelers who haven’t gone through the program’s vetting process... Now, she said, it’s important for TSA “to double down in getting people enrolled in the actual program.” On flight-by-flight basis pax may receive TSA Pre✓® on their boarding pass as part of TSA's pre-screening initiatives, |
"Blame The Passengers" on Twitter
Most of the Spokesholes are doing two things:
Can you still hire people to show up and throw a pie in somebody's face? |
Question. Do passenger's in the states have to pay an airport tax when they fly domestic or international out of an airport?
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Originally Posted by wolf72
(Post 26638209)
Question. Do passenger's in the states have to pay an airport tax when they fly domestic or international out of an airport?
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Originally Posted by wolf72
(Post 26637478)
Thanks for taking the time to reply....
I don't want to sound silly by asking this of the many of you who do go through this crazy security check system but...do you think things could be better if the TSA were not cracking down on checking every single piece of thread, every single item carried in your in flight luggage, etc and a lack of common sense that should be there in the first place? It is surely hurting the tourism industry and domestic travel when they are going over board the way they are and are causing massive lines but don't have the manpower to cope, etc. I realize my comments may not be appreciated by some given what transpired in the past 15 year's ago but if the X-Ray's are that good now day's and the screening machines are that advanced now days, why do they need to cause these sort's of problems. It just sounds insane. |
So, obvious question, I have an 8AM flight on a non-Precheck airline (NK) out of DFW. Should I show up to the airport 2 hours in advance of flight time, or do I have to make it 3 hours in advance? Should I show up the night before and prepare to use the Minute Suites in Terminal D? Or should I just sleep on a cot at the front of the TSA checkpoint line awaiting reopening of the checkpoint in the morning to assure I am first in line and don't miss my flight? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by TheBOSman
(Post 26638589)
So, obvious question, I have an 8AM flight on a non-Precheck airline (NK) out of DFW. Should I show up to the airport 2 hours in advance of flight time, or do I have to make it 3 hours in advance? Should I show up the night before and prepare to use the Minute Suites in Terminal D? Or should I just sleep on a cot at the front of the TSA checkpoint line awaiting reopening of the checkpoint in the morning to assure I am first in line and don't miss my flight? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And to follow up, I've flown twice in the last week. GRR in the afternoon was fine, but that's to be expected for a regional airport. I flew out of DEN friday morning, but precheck only took about 3-5 minutes. It sounds like precheck has still been okay, it's just normal security. Has anyone heard otherwise? I fly out of DEN saturday morning again. |
Originally Posted by TheBOSman
(Post 26638589)
So, obvious question, I have an 8AM flight on a non-Precheck airline (NK) out of DFW. Should I show up to the airport 2 hours in advance of flight time, or do I have to make it 3 hours in advance? Should I show up the night before and prepare to use the Minute Suites in Terminal D? Or should I just sleep on a cot at the front of the TSA checkpoint line awaiting reopening of the checkpoint in the morning to assure I am first in line and don't miss my flight? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26639188)
Television news reports are saying that there have been significant delays at some DFW checkpoints. Depending on the time and terminal, likely D in your case, I would plan for a maximum wait.
Still will make sure to be there by 6AM :rolleyes:. |
Originally Posted by TheBOSman
(Post 26639881)
Still will make sure to be there by 6AM :rolleyes:.
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Originally Posted by TheBOSman
(Post 26639952)
I'm sorely tempted to do the cot thing at the front of the security line just to make a point :D. Don't think it would go over well with DFW PD though...
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Originally Posted by TheBOSman
(Post 26639881)
IIRC I can enter at any terminal, since they are all connected airside by Skylink. D could also be emptier in the morning, not as many international flights.
Still will make sure to be there by 6AM :rolleyes:. |
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