You just supplied the missing piece of the puzzle. I had seen reports that ORD was suddenly moving better today and wondered what was going on.

Now I know. Just like MSP, it's a one-day show. Neffy and his boys will announce that they went to ORD and everything was cool and it's all the media blowing things out of proportion.

Too bad Neffy doesn't have the cojones to show up unannounced at ORD, park himself in a wheelchair, and get in line to experience it for himself. Oh, and maybe, after he's been waiting for 45 minutes, try calling TSA Cares to see if they will help him when he's stuck in line and needs a toilet.

I was onboard with him until he started shilling for Pre without acknowledging that Pre isn't worth much if the FSD refuses to open and staff lanes.

Full shoes-off nude-o-scope screening is absolutely essential to protect our freedom! Wait, it's causing bad press and might cause some of us to be scapegoated out of a nice taxpayer-funded gig? You know what -- new research has just determined that it's not as necessary as we used to think!

Well, they've never really explained why an xray operator on a Pre lane can screen LGAs and laptops in bags with zero risk to security, but that same operator needs everything out and in bins when working a non-Pre lane.

Kind of like the need to screen shoes in a separate bin because it's the only way to get a good look at them - while the spare pairs of shoes packed in rollaboards can be cleared without problem by the same xray operator.

The Evildoer's Code of Ethics clearly states that you can only perpetrate evil with the shoes on your feet.

Pre Check still has people going through for free. Wife and I both got Pre at DAL and LAS this month.

Yes, but it's not 95% like it was before. For two years, I had Pre-Check at IAD 100% of the time, including international flights. I had Pre-Check most of the time on my return flights as well.

Now, I rarely get Pre-Check at IAD or elsewhere.

If the Airport Authorities and Airlines don't join together and take immediate steps to replace government screeners with contract screeners I think the final outcome will be very damaging to the air travel industry. Government, through TSA, has demonstrated why having government provide basic services is a bad idea.

I recently did a round trip DAL-LAS-DAL and had minimal waits for TSA but my experience was not the same as others that I saw standing in long lines waiting for TSA.

Later this year I have decided to drive to Florida instead of fighting TSA at DFW and FLL/MIA which on good days can be challenging.

TSA is causing monetary damage to airports, airlines, and more importantly to travelers who have to either allow more time (money), miss flights (money), or miss connections (money) just to do normal travel due to TSA's incompetence.

TSA will make the same amount of money whether or not people fly. The airlines have seen people accept more and more cr*p as a requirement for flying (or, on occasion, riding a train, subway, or bus or attending a political rally or a major sports event). The airlines are counting on the fact that even their high-value customers - perhaps especially their high-value customers - really don't have alternative viable options. AA has been making a windfall off rebooking fees from pax who have missed their flights waiting in impossibly long lines.

The airlines might be right, they might be wrong, but unless they collectively take a prolonged and significant financial hit, they're not going to do anything. If and when they do react, it will only be to protect their elites and high value customers. Delta may be moving in that direction with CLEAR. They'll at least be able to give their high-value fliers front-of-line privileges, something Pre does not reliably provide.

The increased wait time could have been due to the increased threat..

But then who knows..

$85.00 does help, just like taking the coins out of your pockets..

If $85 means the threat level is lower, then $1500+ spent on checking Snowden says what. ;)

The increased wait time increases the threat. ;)

The word in DC and VA is that American Airlines is stepping up to the plate to help TSA speed up things by helping the TSA with more bomb-sniffing dogs and with people to help with line feed and other things before (and perhaps after) the screening by the TSA.

Quite clearly the airlines don't want to be in charge of passenger security screening at the primary airport screening checkpoints. And so these band-aids are just that, while the wound will remain infected.

Please, you don't really believe that do you. The lines create an opportunity for anyone who would care to do harm to aviation.

More from @AskTSA:

https://twitter.com/AskTSA/status/733442235191037956

We weren't safe before?:confused:

Passengers don't just want to be safe. They want it done in a TIMELY fashion.

More tidbits from AskTSA:

https://twitter.com/AskTSA/status/733447014076305408