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Oh, look, the Senate found some money!
..Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Appropriations Committee, delivered. He announced that he approved Johnson’s request to shift $34 million in funding to the TSA ahead of the summer vacation season. ..The freed-up funds will be put toward accelerating the hiring and training of 768 security officers and more overtime pay. |
Moving to the Checkpoints and Borders Policy forum for further discussion. Thanks. /JY1024, TravelBuzz co-moderator
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I found this a few minutes ago: http://thehill.com/policy/transporta...ort-wait-times
perhaps the senates even considering this will suddenly have tsa agents come out of hybrination:p--its nearly summer now.:rolleyes: |
Another posted article about slow TSA lines in NYC area:
http://gothamist.com/2016/05/04/tsa_..._damnation.php Commenters (many who claim to be frequent flyers) on the article by and large are ones who think it's the passengers' faults. |
Originally Posted by cbn42
(Post 26579824)
It would avoid PR problems.
If the TSA abruptly decided to screen everyone by Precheck, it would generate headlines like "Security Standards Lowered!" and "TSA Compromises Safety!" Instead, if they simply increased the number of people who receive Precheck-style screening, they can present it as a risk-based program and it's unlikely to generate opposition. Let's say you're a senator who votes to eliminate one of the many useless parts of airport security - we'll use ID checks in this case, but it could be any number of things. Six months later, a terrorist blows up an airplane. The ID check may not have prevented the act, but you can sure as heck believe that the senator's opponent is going to run all kinds of negative ads about the senator's vote, whether it mattered or not. Mike |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 26581567)
PIT and PHL have been fine.
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Just checked into IAH. Precheck line took 2 minutes, but general line looked at least 45 minutes long.
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ord t5 was a joke yesterday... terrible
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Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 26578452)
They serve one moderately useful purpose, though it's not a security measure per se - they are meant to limit admittance to the sterile area to ticketed passengers only, which reduces the number of people screened, which shortens lines.
Even with pre-9/11 screening, limiting sterile area access to ticketed pax only significantly reduces the number of people clogging up the screening checkpoints. In the old days, it was common to see whole families seeing off grandma and grandpa on their trips to Boca, or Junior on his way to college. Now, only the travelers themselves (with a few limited exceptions) pass through the c/p, and the lines are still unwieldy - imagine if the BP check was eliminated and travelers could bring their entire entourages with them. So although I know that the ID check does nothing for security, it does prevent people from printing a dozen BPs on their home printers and bringing the whole clan to the gate to see them off. If really necessary, it wouldn't be hard to implement a system that only lets a passenger through once, with manual intervention for going through again (since there are some legitimate cases where that could happen). You'd still need to have one person manning a group of automated gates, but that's better than 6 ID checkers for the same throughput. |
One of AskTSA's responses to complaints about long lines:
Sorry, we’re working to address the volume by increasing use of canines, encouraging TSA Pre✓® enrollment & accelerating hiring. There is 1 canine handler position open in San Francisco. Yet again, TSA & AskTSA seem to be trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public. |
Flew out of DAL today. Free PreCheck. TDC didn't appear to be TSA employee although a 1 strip screener was monitoring. No marks on boarding pass. Carry on bag xray operator was calling for numerous bag checks including mine. Regular screening line was stacked up but no sense of the wait. I did note that the TDC was friendly as were the TSA people I had contact with.
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Horrendous TSA at ORD today
I was flying this afternoon ORD-DCA on the 6PM flight. It was my partner and I. We arrived at ORD at 4:20 or so, checked in. He doesn't have Pre, I do. We entered the respective lines at 4:30. he was in the premier line. It took me 40 minutes to clear Pre. he didnt make it out of TSA in time for the flight and missed it. There were TONS of others in the line around him panicking and they all missed their 6PM flights too. Seriously, we are at a point where you get into line in security 90 minutes before your flight, in the premier line, and miss the flight? This is awful. I talked to the gate agent before I boarded and told him the situation. He said the TSA is "worthless" and that this is happening with increasing frequency. Really shameful. Some issues - 1) He will get Pre; 2) Pre shouldn't take 40 minutes 3) it's unacceptable that with 90 minutes you still miss your flight. It seemed like there were only 3 or 4 security gates max open besides the 2 pre check gates. Seriously - ORD? Awful.
Edited to note this was at UA terminal 1. UA personnel were sympathetic and horrified by TSA but admitted they were pretty powerless to do much about it. |
This seems better suited in another forum as it doesn't have anything to do with United
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It has everything to do with United - it's Terminal 1, which is entirely a United terminal.
I arrived at ORD T1 about 2 hours before the OP, and it took me 'only' 25 minutes to get through Premier Access. On Thursday, it took me 45 minutes. I hadn't noticed it being bad until this week, but it's gotten really grotesque, and I don't know why. But it's a real problem for United. |
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