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Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 26565997)
You don't know that the screeners/management that cheated on testing and disallowed exempt liquids weren't fired. I think the point is that it is easier to remove individual screeners working for a business that provides security than to remove screeners working for the government.
No I do not and neither do you. But what we DO KNOW. Is that the Private Security firm demoted and then fired the individual who raised concerns about the cheating. Fired on the spot does not mean better. It does mean you have a group of individual who operate out of fear and will do what they are told without question. Blind obedience does not mean better. |
Originally Posted by gingersnaps
(Post 26571036)
No I do not and neither do you.
But what we DO KNOW. Is that the Private Security firm demoted and then fired the individual who raised concerns about the cheating. Fired on the spot does not mean better. It does mean you have a group of individual who operate out of fear and will do what they are told without question. Blind obedience does not mean better. |
Originally Posted by gingersnaps
(Post 26571022)
I am against faulty reasoning. That faulty reasoning being that "private security will be better".
All the evidence indicates private security is no better. Being able to fire a person on demand does not mean better security. The main point in my mind is that government should not be the provider of security services to a private business. |
Originally Posted by Matthew330Ci
(Post 26570406)
So for those of you with Precheck who are flying in and out of bigger airports at peak times, are you seeing the kind of lines being called out in the article? Typical mid-day non-peak PreCheck lines at ATL are hundreds of people per line, takes 15-20 minutes to get through. I try to avoid peak times at ATL like it's on fire ;) but on the occasions when I have been there at peak times the PreCheck lines can be very, very long. I've recently been in PC North when the line stretched out of the normal queuing room (where it was already laid out in the normal cattle-herding zigzags) down the hall all the way to the United Airlines counter intersection. |
Originally Posted by BSBD
(Post 26571365)
Typical mid-day non-peak PreCheck lines at ATL are hundreds of people per line, takes 15-20 minutes to get through. I try to avoid peak times at ATL like it's on fire ;) but on the occasions when I have been there at peak times the PreCheck lines can be very, very long. I've recently been in PC North when the line stretched out of the normal queuing room (where it was already laid out in the normal cattle-herding zigzags) down the hall all the way to the United Airlines counter intersection.
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Latest AskTSA response to complaint about long lines:
We’re working to address the volume by increasing use of canines, encouraging TSA Pre✓® enrollment & accelerating hiring. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26570586)
PreCheck screening should be the default screening method for everyone, not just 80% or fewer.
What would be accomplished by withholding reasonable screening from 20% of the people? |
Politico:
In budget fight, appropriators eye long TSA wait times IN BUDGET FIGHT, APPROPRIATORS EYE TSA WAIT TIMES: The bad news: Security lines at airports around the country are expected to get a longer than ever this summer. The good news (at least for the travel industry): Those increasingly disruptive wait times may prod Congress to up appropriations for the Transportation Security Administration. <snip> |
Politico has a very odd definition of "Good News"...
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Originally Posted by JoeBas
(Post 26572616)
Politico has a very odd definition of "Good News"...
Spending more money for TSA labor won't increase TSA productivity. The way to increase TSA productivity is to re-engineer TSA's ways of operating passenger screening. |
If Neffenger is using airline passengers as chips in his little budget game then I have even less respect for TSA.
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If new hires can't do anything besides stack tubs until they've had their 'academy' training (200 at a time), all the money in the world isn't going to improve things for many months.
All the money in the world is also ignoring the fact that chronic retention problems are contributing to the problem. We're in a better economy now - even federal pay and benefits aren't enough to offset toxic employee morale. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26572671)
If Neffenger is using airline passengers as chips in his little budget game then I have even less respect for TSA.
Neffenger has, indeed, been using airline passengers to get his needs met. |
Before TSA goes overboard authorizing unlimited overtime for non-working LTSOs, STSOs and BDOs, they should offer full-time employment to their many part-time staff.
Some of those folks probably only want part-time, but there's no point in hiring a new person who won't be ready to do anything besides stack tubs for weeks or months until s/he can get a slot at the 'academy' if there's already a part-timer on the payroll who wants full-time - or even just more hours. It makes more sense (faster and cheaper) to authorize an increase in non-OT hours for all part-timers who want it. (IOW, if a 20-hour/week part-timer is willing to go full-time or to work a 30-hour/week permanent schedule, that should (and could) be done almost immediately. |
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