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Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 21956723)
And if you didn't understand the language?
Does anyone really think that TSA trains their personnel on how names are pronounced in different languages? |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 21956722)
Thanks for doing the digging. I'll tuck that info away for future use. My understanding of the 65 birthday day is that once that age you are moved from Tricare to Medicare. Could be bad info.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 21956847)
You do the best you can. I would cooperate to my best ability. Somehow I have always managed regardless of language barriers.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 21956847)
You do the best you can. I would cooperate to my best ability. Somehow I have always managed regardless of language barriers.
Do you really think a terrorist wouldn't also "cooperate to the best of their ability"? The procedure is useless. |
Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 21958849)
And if the terrorist was a foreigner, who didn't speak English, and the TSA didn't know how is name was suppose to be pronounced?
Do you really think a terrorist wouldn't also "cooperate to the best of their ability"? The procedure is useless. |
Originally Posted by Carl Johnson
(Post 21958904)
My understanding is that it's actually to get the clerks to pay attention to what they're looking at. If that's true, the procedure would have some use (if checking documents actually contributed anything to security, which it doesn't)
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 21958849)
And if the terrorist was a foreigner, who didn't speak English, and the TSA didn't know how is name was suppose to be pronounced?
Do you really think a terrorist wouldn't also "cooperate to the best of their ability"? The procedure is useless. The question asked up thread is what one would do in a foreign country. When I am a visitor in another country I give them the benefit of doubt that the screening process is understood by the screening people. Also notable is that language skills outside of the U.S. are much better and many people can speak two if not more languages. They certainly seem to be head and shoulders more qualified to screen people than our sorry excuse for baggage screeners. I think a terrorist would do everything they could to fit in and go unnoticed. Which goes to show that the interrogations games TSA plays is another useless act not to mention that it exceeds the limited administrative search for WEI. |
Even in the UK, there is no name game silliness. Nor are you generally required to show photo ID at the checkpoint. In fact, if you're flying domestically you don't need photo ID at all on some carriers.
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Originally Posted by DeafBlonde
(Post 21959118)
My understanding is that requiring the TDC "agent" to ask pax to state their name is a punishment for failing the "red team" test of the checkpoint procedures. No matter why they ask...it is still a useless "layer" of "security.":rolleyes:
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I am a bit of a contrarian on this. As they have two documents with my name, I feel it is a trivial matter to discreetly say my name. There are bigger battles to fight.
I still disagree that they have the authority to do this, and I will unequivocally support anyone that wants to fight this battle. It ends there. With the exception of my destination airport (also on my already handed over BP) any request for personal information such as the purpose of my trip, where I will be staying, how long will I be there are out of bounds are not open for discussion. The PIPI will be a fruitless exercise. This battle will be engaged and I will defend this hill. |
Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 21959768)
I am a bit of a contrarian on this. As they have two documents with my name, I feel it is a trivial matter to discreetly say my name. There are bigger battles to fight.
I still disagree that they have the authority to do this, and I will unequivocally support anyone that wants to fight this battle. It ends there. With the exception of my destination airport (also on my already handed over BP) any request for personal information such as the purpose of my trip, where I will be staying, how long will I be there are out of bounds are not open for discussion. The PIPI will be a fruitless exercise. This battle will be engaged and I will defend this hill. |
Originally Posted by roachjl
(Post 21956071)
I give up. If people can't see the ridiculousness of causing a big stink, calling 911 and otherwise acting like a child, because he didnt want to utter his own damn name, then I guess I'm not going to be the one to convince you.
Here, for the most part, we "get it." |
Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 21958849)
And if the terrorist was a foreigner, who didn't speak English, and the TSA didn't know how is name was suppose to be pronounced?
Do you really think a terrorist wouldn't also "cooperate to the best of their ability"? The procedure is useless. |
Originally Posted by stifle
(Post 21955332)
It's against FT TOS to post full names of staffers.
Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 21959768)
I am a bit of a contrarian on this. As they have two documents with my name, I feel it is a trivial matter to discreetly say my name. There are bigger battles to fight.
I still disagree that they have the authority to do this, and I will unequivocally support anyone that wants to fight this battle. |
Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 21959768)
It ends there. With the exception of my destination airport (also on my already handed over BP) any request for personal information such as the purpose of my trip, where I will be staying, how long will I be there are out of bounds are not open for discussion.
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