..YOU PEOPLE?!? What kind of other knee-jerk stereotyping do you commit on a daily basis? Because it's unconstitutional, adds nothing to security, it's an inconsistent process that isn't applied at every TDC position around the country, and it's a silly-buggers game. Enough reasons? And your knowledge of anybody's other activities is derived from what proof? It's irrelevant to this specific discussion anyway.Nonsense. We play passive aggressive games right back at them in other ways. I suppose you think demanding they change their gloves because it's our right is a useless gesture as well, with no basis in disease control?You obviously believe in the "all terrorists are dumb as rocks" theory.Yet you feel compelled to troll us? Hmmmm. But when they're confiscated and taken out of our vicinity, our freedom of movement has just been taken away. By a government agent with ZERO POWERS OF DETENTION! These were not taken away by a law enforcement officer - the documents were taken without cause by someone who has no legal authority to restrain you - INTO THE SECURE side where you WILL be met by an LEO if you intrude to follow your documents. Taking away someone's travel documents is an illegal form of detention, it can be argued.

But if you're all right with that, carry on and parrot your name if it makes you feel safer. For the rest of us, your bleating is ignorable.

Does "you people" equate to "people who are not TSA employees, shills, or quislings?" If so, I'll wear that label with pride.

Ignoble?

Because the name game is frigging unnecessary. No one should even have to show an ID to a government actor to fly as a passenger. Asking questions beyond "Papieren, bitte!" is even more disgusting and un-American than the ID demand itself.

It is definitely NOT reasonable.

What's pathetic is your misunderstanding that one's ID can be confiscated by a non-law-enforcement actor who isn't even an actor for the state that issued that ID. :td: :td:

The ones picking the fight are the 2bit TSA clerks. TSA pushes useless procedures down the public's throats without having to show a shred of evidence that the procedure adds anything to finding terrorist.

You can roll over for TSA if you wish but I refuse. I say make the TSA clerks jobs just as difficult as possible.

If these threads are so pathetic why are you here?

If you can show me with specificity in the C.F.R.s where the TSA has this authority, then you have a point. In fact, just show us where they have the authority to require presentment of an ID. The TSA has had years to promulgate such, but have continued to ignore the requirement.

And yet we have not seen a definitive answer from the TSA as to what happens to someone who refuses to state their name. That is telling.

Don't you feel any cold chills if the following statement was said:

Because the people who ask for our name are exceeding their authority when they do it. They have the authority to match our ID with the BP, nothing more.

The last time I had to play the name game I told the TDC that I would not say my name out loud but would be happy to whisper it in his ear. That got me a three stripper!!!

That said, I have not had to play the game for quite a while. Now I just need to remember to raise my right arm and goose step through the WTMD while doing PreCheck.

They didn't ask me when I went through JFK T8 in mid October.

"What if I don't want to hear my name?"

Lucky you! I can never get more than one stripper at a time when I'm at one of those places ;)

Would you give ME your passport and driver's license? After all, they're not your property.

Could you please take a scan of both of them and upload them here?

I really have a hard time with the "Name Game." I am hearing impaired and the noisy checkpoint is very difficult for communication. I hear things as loud as almost everyone else, but the noise is very muddled and sounds like hearing it through a pillow, but loud. Hearing aids do not work.

I can do quite well with questions that I expect and I am looking at the speaker. Out of context questions are very hard. They are impossible when they are mumbled with the head down and I am expected to be able to hear what I can not hear. When 90% of the airports do not ask the question, when I get to one that does, it is quite frustrating trying to figure out what they want. My first suspicion is that there is a problem with my ID or boarding pass so I will ask if that is the problem not realizing that they were asking for my name. In many cases, this creates an immediate confrontational attitude.

Any change in process through the CP may cause me to misunderstand and create a problem. The airports with "keep your boarding pass out rules" are equally as bad as there are often no signs, they just tell me at the TDC. I do not hear it and I put my BP and ID in my carry on as usual, put the bag in the xray and become the potential terrorist of the moment because I do not have my BP and ID like they told me and I do not stop when they tell me to stop as they are behind me and I do not hear them.

Hearing impairment is an invisible disability. I do not wish to wear a sign around my neck that says "I can not hear you" and I should not have to. The inconsistency of the process is quite annoying for me.

So, I applaud the OP for taking a stand against this requirement. The requirement is silly, unnecessary, unpublished, unauthorized by regulation and difficult for those of us without normal hearing. It serves mainly to enforce the pseudo-authority of the officious martinets that occasionally staff the CP's.

What's her name? It's hard to find out who the FSD is at an airport, it would be useful to know who the JFK FSD is.

I understand where you are coming from. I don't know if it's an impairment or what but I suffer with some of the same issues. Noisy enviorments are difficult. It seems that the sound streams get muddled together and none are distinct. I can cope to some degree with careful focus on the person speaking. Don't know if it is a form of lip reading or just paying close attention to what they are saying.

Of course this can't be a problem for either of us since TSA clerks are all well trained on dealing with the public regardless of personal issues or needs. :rolleyes:

Yes. No matter what the issue is, a TSA employee can be expected to shout louder in whatever language they're using (which in PHX, ATL, and DFW does not seem to be anything intelligible, but has a passing acquaintance with Modern English.)