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Old May 15, 2014, 8:16 am
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This thread is now archived. Please follow the topic here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase-ultimate-rewards/1986148-chase-closed-my-credit-card-account-s-tales-speculation-2019-thread.html




If you feel your account has been unfairly closed, consider filing a complaint with the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau:

CFPB's complaint form: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

When someone reports an account closure here, a lot of the same questions get asked. It might be useful to answer some questions in advance. This could help figure out what happened or how to proceed:
  1. Did you transfer UR points to someone with a different address? Different last name?
  2. Did you sell UR points to someone?
  3. Approximately what percentage of your charges earned less than 5x points in the past 12 months?
  4. Did a Chase or non-Chase bank recently close one of your credit cards?
  5. Are you using up a large percentage of your credit line on all Chase and non-Chase credit cards?
  6. Is your total credit line with Chase much higher than with other banks?
  7. Did you apply for many credit cards or other forms of credit in the past 2 months? ("Many" may be hard to define.)
  8. If you have a Chase checking account how much did you typically deposit in money orders per month, if any?
  9. Did you recently start spending a lot more with Chase than in typical months?
  10. Is your monthly balance frequently close to your credit limit?
  11. Approximately what percentage of spending was on gift cards this year?
  12. How much of your bill do you typically pay using WM or KMart bill payment if any?
  13. Do you have a Chase mortgage or other account that might be profitable to Chase?
  14. Has your credit score or credit profile changed recently? As in: significantly more debt, more open credit lines, or a large drop in your credit score?
Related threads: 2013.1 2013.4
2013.9
2013.12 2014.6
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...ta-points.html

On 1/4/15, LivelyFL noted that 34 posts have referenced account closures (updated 1/25/15):
1, 55, 80, 108, 117, 129, 146, 165, 182, 212, 221, 222, 232, 235, 262, 272, 281, 326, 364, 410, 411, 428, 475, 477, 482, 513, 552, 586, 620, 648, 656, 662, 714, 718, 784 and 815.

Mortgasm provided more detail as follows:

001 - moarmiles little explaination - 'inconsistent spending'
055 - brettskyg chase gift cards tiny ms
080 - Artemk checking chase gift card, tiny MS, international wires, wall-mart BP
108 - TTnc4me (105 actually) no info
117 - rodsren
129 - Kybosh chase gift card checking
146 - mintcilantro - checking 6k/month MS, BB payments from another ss#, some MO/AP, 7new cards in 90days, short cycling
165 - newcomr - checking
182 - thehawk75 - heavy MSw/other banks,
212 - LRD - 2x spend of 20k /month (on two cards), checking
221 - iceman 77_7, no info
222 - jk2 no info
232 - hitman1420 checking , heavy MS activity (no number)
235 - clearlyanewb checking, MS activity (10k AGC and more), light credit history, 10 recent inquiries
262 - brc01 - shortcycling, some MS (18k/month over a few cards), 1
272 - rambo - 70% MS on 5 cards, WM BP of 16k/month on 5 cards
281 - prestonv - heavy MS - 20k/month on multiple chase cards, heavy WMBP (ink stayed open)
326 - pacupgo - false alarm, no shutdown
364 - edh101985 - tiny MS (bonus only) , 4 chase cards in 6 months,
410 - msetr - lots of freedom/ink ms
411 - standaman360 - international wires (business), million dollar balances,
428 - queensgambit - gambling transactions, UR point transfer from SO, 5 chase apps 3 new chase cc in 45 days, Blogger points coach
475 - dogloverjb - checking, international wires,
477 - ftomasz - 14 inquiries in 8 months, 5 chase, minimal MS, rapid upswing in credit, paying from multiple accounts
482 - liw5215 - Heavy MS, re-entered after 13 months
513 - thegasguru - checking, $3k/month MO to checking, NO MS, AP,
552 - LAXtoWorld - 3 cards in 30 days
586 - adavydov7 checking, $1k APs,
648 - CMHFlyerOH - checking, MO, 3k gift cards
656 - I can see for miles - Maxed UR 5x rewards on Freedom and Ink cards. Chased closed all accounts. Was approved for Ritz Carlton card 14 months later and did nothing unusual with it, other than lower CL from 30K to 10K to free up CL for possible approvals. Two subsequent Chase apps (Chase Ink and Marriott Rewards), on separate dates 3+ months later, were declined for a "previous unsatisfactory relationship ..."
662 - frogdog51 - Chase VGCs (Reapproved in 12 months)
677 - Subdawg - closed for piggybacking
714 - Mamibear - 'abuse' redcard MS
718 - maxswanson - MS, 11 chase cards, traded UR, (reapproved after 12 months)
752 - peaser - "reputational risk" associated with the business (decision reversed later)
757 - uncommonsensical checking, 3 Cashier's Check deposits with quick w/d (the w/d were to pay CHASE credit cards! ridiculous 'loss prevention' dept. gods). All CC's closed 2 days later. Tried EX Office- they seem to have zero power once the Mullah in loss prevention has issued a fatwa (my guess: some 27 year old with a god complex).
762 - knopfler - checking closed (all credit cards closed in both mine and Mrs. Knopflers accounts about three weeks after checking closure)
771 - milemonkey - 'reputational Risk" connected to Attorney General lawsuit
784 - unstable one: 2 cash deposits over 10k to chase checking
815 - dukerau - one time UR point sale, 77% spending is 5x,
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Old Jan 9, 2014, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by rodsren
do as much small spending (do the gas tank over 3 days at $25 each), etc.

Did 27K in decebmber and did not have a problem with the credit card, only with the bank (we should have used the bank and Go Bank credit card max 500 crash advances as a 2,500 deposit, not 5 500 despots.) I didn't really look and then Chase closed by bank account (although not my cc.'s that God.) I think I am going to play it very light for a while with my good friend the blue bird, and keep it under that.
You should move your UR points right away. I'm not sure when your checking account was closed, but your credit cards may still be at risk. Someone posted in the thread previously that he found out that his checking account was closed first, then came the credit cards.
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Old Jan 9, 2014, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by dogbyte
You should move your UR points right away. I'm not sure when your checking account was closed, but your credit cards may still be at risk. Someone posted in the thread previously that he found out that his checking account was closed first, then came the credit cards.
That was me - I had about 10 days between a notice about my checking/ savings account and cards. At least 5 days prior to having my CCs closed I submitted a transfer request (before cards were officially closed) that was never completed.
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Old Jan 20, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by brettskyg
I am filing my claim against Chase today. I will let you all know how it goes.
What type of claim?
CFPB, small claim suit etc.?
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Old Jan 20, 2014, 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Often1
Please let me know of the operating business which does this as a regular practice.

Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but the bottom line is that non-specialty clothing required for work, e.g. a suit, isn't a reasonable and ordinary expense.
As I understand the rule, it is clothes that are only usable for work. My work clothes, factory-type uniforms and steel toed shoes, are deductible. Socks and and underwear are not.
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Old Jan 23, 2014, 9:10 am
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If Chase closed your account could they take Hyatt or United Points also....or just UR points?
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Old Jan 23, 2014, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by elg26
If Chase closed your account could they take Hyatt or United Points also....or just UR points?
You might not receive miles or points earned on spending during the current billing period with a co-branded card, but Chase would typically not have the ability to claw back points already deposited in an airline or hotel program account.
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Old Feb 3, 2014, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by brettskyg
I am filing my claim against Chase today. I will let you all know how it goes.
Executive Office will typically deny such claims
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Old Feb 20, 2014, 6:06 pm
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OP--was there a final decision ?
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Old Mar 13, 2014, 9:09 am
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I had no idea that those silly Chase GC purchases would be a reason to close accounts.

I did a few months of that but never hit it card because I only had 1 card with chase.
I mostly used my Chase checking account as a centralized churn hub and deposited MO deposits. Got shutdown a few months ago.

Tried to app for the Chase INK card last month and was approved but the card arrived cancelled. Seems the Executive Office closed it due to a "previous unsatisfactory relationship" with Chase. I've seen that phrase before.

Didn't think it affected the business side and quite frankly Im surprised they would use the nuclear option on me since I really didn't do THAT much (compared to you HHers).
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Old Mar 13, 2014, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by brettskyg
I am filing my claim against Chase today. I will let you all know how it goes.
Any updates on this?
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Old Mar 13, 2014, 12:20 pm
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Any updates on this?
+1, thank you
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 1:03 pm
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Chase and returning of confiscated UR points

I have an update to my story. For anyone who has been suffering and lost all of their points as I did, please PM me and I will tell you what just happened. Hopefully this can help you as well.
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by brettskyg
I have an update to my story. For anyone who has been suffering and lost all of their points as I did, please PM me and I will tell you what just happened. Hopefully this can help you as well.
Why can’t you share your update here? I thought you were pretty upfront in the other thread in MS forum.
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 2:07 pm
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Yah. that's weird that you do not share to the public. It's not like it's a secret MS trick, VR locations, etc.
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Old Mar 25, 2014, 6:16 pm
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probably under a non-disclosure.
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