[Expired 2009 offer]100,000 miles for new BA Chase VISA
#1172
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: 1 AU
Programs: Support the Tyrants Travel Club
Posts: 2,708
well, good luck.
the rep never mentioned no-fee for me, so I'm fine with accepting the charge.
the rep never mentioned no-fee for me, so I'm fine with accepting the charge.
#1173
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold,IHG Plat Amb, CC Gold, Kimpton IC, United, AA, BA, Amtrak G.R.
Posts: 446
my card hasn't even arrived yet and i already can see the $75 charge online. $75 for 100,000 miles seems more than fair, IMO, but if some people complain and get the fee waived, then it would be nice for chase to waive it for everyone who signed up. no double standards...
#1174
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,644
my card hasn't even arrived yet and i already can see the $75 charge online. $75 for 100,000 miles seems more than fair, IMO, but if some people complain and get the fee waived, then it would be nice for chase to waive it for everyone who signed up. no double standards...
Mike
#1175
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 880
No doubt they are well prepared for a wave of complaint calls over the annual fee.
I called up this morning to let them know that I was notified at activation that my fee was waived for the first year. Without hesitation, the CSR said, "The fee is NOT waived for the first year. I can connect you to a supervisor if you'd like."
Supervisor then would stick by the T&C of the offer, which obviously stated there was a $75 fee, and would insist that is the fee that British Airways requires. Promised me that they would make sure nothing like that happens again
Extremely dishonest practice. If I was never told about a fee waiver, I would have no complaint, as I always expected to pay the $75. But the activation rep - with no prompting from myself - very clearly noted that the fee was waived for the first year. The fact that they weasel out of it now, knowing all the customer has to fall back on was "I was told..." is pretty low. Do we now have to start tape recording all of our phone calls?
Between the horrendous changes to the Freedom card rewards program (I no longer use that card), and this experience, Chase will certainly not be getting any of my credit card business once the 100,000 miles are in my account.
I called up this morning to let them know that I was notified at activation that my fee was waived for the first year. Without hesitation, the CSR said, "The fee is NOT waived for the first year. I can connect you to a supervisor if you'd like."
Supervisor then would stick by the T&C of the offer, which obviously stated there was a $75 fee, and would insist that is the fee that British Airways requires. Promised me that they would make sure nothing like that happens again
Extremely dishonest practice. If I was never told about a fee waiver, I would have no complaint, as I always expected to pay the $75. But the activation rep - with no prompting from myself - very clearly noted that the fee was waived for the first year. The fact that they weasel out of it now, knowing all the customer has to fall back on was "I was told..." is pretty low. Do we now have to start tape recording all of our phone calls?
Between the horrendous changes to the Freedom card rewards program (I no longer use that card), and this experience, Chase will certainly not be getting any of my credit card business once the 100,000 miles are in my account.
#1176
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,644
No doubt they are well prepared for a wave of complaint calls over the annual fee.
I called up this morning to let them know that I was notified at activation that my fee was waived for the first year. Without hesitation, the CSR said, "The fee is NOT waived for the first year. I can connect you to a supervisor if you'd like."
Supervisor then would stick by the T&C of the offer, which obviously stated there was a $75 fee, and would insist that is the fee that British Airways requires. Promised me that they would make sure nothing like that happens again
Extremely dishonest practice. If I was never told about a fee waiver, I would have no complaint, as I always expected to pay the $75. But the activation rep - with no prompting from myself - very clearly noted that the fee was waived for the first year. The fact that they weasel out of it now, knowing all the customer has to fall back on was "I was told..." is pretty low. Do we now have to start tape recording all of our phone calls?
Between the horrendous changes to the Freedom card rewards program (I no longer use that card), and this experience, Chase will certainly not be getting any of my credit card business once the 100,000 miles are in my account.
I called up this morning to let them know that I was notified at activation that my fee was waived for the first year. Without hesitation, the CSR said, "The fee is NOT waived for the first year. I can connect you to a supervisor if you'd like."
Supervisor then would stick by the T&C of the offer, which obviously stated there was a $75 fee, and would insist that is the fee that British Airways requires. Promised me that they would make sure nothing like that happens again
Extremely dishonest practice. If I was never told about a fee waiver, I would have no complaint, as I always expected to pay the $75. But the activation rep - with no prompting from myself - very clearly noted that the fee was waived for the first year. The fact that they weasel out of it now, knowing all the customer has to fall back on was "I was told..." is pretty low. Do we now have to start tape recording all of our phone calls?
Between the horrendous changes to the Freedom card rewards program (I no longer use that card), and this experience, Chase will certainly not be getting any of my credit card business once the 100,000 miles are in my account.
Mike
#1177
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: TX
Posts: 219
Or cancel the card and get a refund on the $75 annual fee.
#1178
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
my card hasn't even arrived yet and i already can see the $75 charge online. $75 for 100,000 miles seems more than fair, IMO, but if some people complain and get the fee waived, then it would be nice for chase to waive it for everyone who signed up. no double standards...
I seriously doubt Chase would budge to give some fee waived some dont. Verbiage means nothing. See below.
In all fairness, there is no reason to complain - mis-information happens frequently between phone reps and customers, in almost ALL types of business - just so the card business seems to be among the most touchy topics to most.
In case anyone still has any doubt about bonuses and fee, below is a response from secured email:
Dear xxxxxx,
I have reviewed the enrollment incentive associated with
the application you submitted and am pleased to confirm
that you are eligible to receive a total of 100,000 bonus
miles. You are scheduled to receive 50,000 bonus miles
after your first purchase and an additional 50,000 bonus
miles if the total purchases you make during the first
three months exceed $2,000.00. Please allow six to eight
weeks after completing qualifying activity for the bonus
miles to be posted to the account.
Unfortunately there is not a valid British Airways
enrollment incentive that includes no annual fee for the
first year. For this reason, I regret to inform you that
I am unable to honor your request for an annual fee
credit. I apologize for the inconvenience that this may
have caused you.
If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.
Thank you,
[NAME AND PHONE # REMOVED BY MODERATOR]
Account is owned by Chase Bank USA, N.A. and may be
serviced by its affiliates.
Last edited by gleff; Dec 2, 2009 at 1:46 pm
#1179
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
It really is an honest mistake made by Chase phone CSRs - I know, using honesty here with a bank would get flamed, big time. However, I really dont understand why people knowing fully they sign up a card with annual fee, but when being mis-informed the fee is waived by the phone reps, then they now all claim the bank is out to scam them?! Come on, when you sign up, the fee is stated on the Pricing and Terms. If it is waived, consider it a pleasant surprise. If it turns out an erroneous message, then why get all that upset?!
Exactly - if people are so unhappy with the measly $75 fee for 50K + 50K miles, then they can cancel the card within 30 days of issuance (or may be 60 days?) and get the fee reversed. Just dont expect the miles if granted, would stay in their accounts though.
Last edited by Happy; Dec 2, 2009 at 8:44 am
#1180
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: TAMPA, TPA
Programs: DELTA SM
Posts: 16
This card still occasionally gets a fee-free teaser. Sometimes there are two 0% teasers listed in my options: a short one with no fees and a longer one with 3% juice. I've noticed that there's no longer a cap on the juice...it's always a full 3% (Sometimes it used to be $50 or $75 max.)
Going back to the discussion about South America: from reading the website, it appears to be 40k to use one partner airline only. So TPA-MIA-GIG-MIA-TPA appears to be 40k in coach or 80k in biz.
Selecting the "BA plus one partner" option shows the award as available for 50k for N.A. to South America. But when I log in and search on the award, no availability shows up for an entire year. Therefore, it sounds like it is not allowed.
On the bright side, once I was logged in I searched for a variety of peak-season itineraries and found surprisingly good availability. Lots of midsummer availability to Europe, etc. Good availability in both Y and biz. The bogus fees on award tickets are a pain, but I guess it's better than finding zero availability like I'm used to on some other airlines.
Going back to the discussion about South America: from reading the website, it appears to be 40k to use one partner airline only. So TPA-MIA-GIG-MIA-TPA appears to be 40k in coach or 80k in biz.
Selecting the "BA plus one partner" option shows the award as available for 50k for N.A. to South America. But when I log in and search on the award, no availability shows up for an entire year. Therefore, it sounds like it is not allowed.
On the bright side, once I was logged in I searched for a variety of peak-season itineraries and found surprisingly good availability. Lots of midsummer availability to Europe, etc. Good availability in both Y and biz. The bogus fees on award tickets are a pain, but I guess it's better than finding zero availability like I'm used to on some other airlines.
Thanks! Good news on the South American case. Specially about been no fuel surcharge on AA metal! Looking forward to get my miles posted so I can book it. Hopefully if I get the required purchases made by the end of this month I'll have all the 100K miles posted by march..
#1181
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,833
We all happily signed up for these cards, knowing that there was a $75 annual fee. No one was misled. Any statements (about fee waivers) by a misinformed CSR occurred AFTER we all agreed to the (very generous) terms of the offer.
To now complain that Chase is "dishonest" seems very strange to me.
We should all be writing Chase a thank you note, not calling them names.
If you don't like the terms of the card, send it back (along with the 100k miles).
To now complain that Chase is "dishonest" seems very strange to me.
We should all be writing Chase a thank you note, not calling them names.
If you don't like the terms of the card, send it back (along with the 100k miles).
#1182
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: DFW/SEA
Programs: *A Silver, AA Gold + Miles Scattered Everywhere.
Posts: 2,045
#1183
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,047
We all happily signed up for these cards, knowing that there was a $75 annual fee. No one was misled. Any statements (about fee waivers) by a misinformed CSR occurred AFTER we all agreed to the (very generous) terms of the offer.
To now complain that Chase is "dishonest" seems very strange to me.
We should all be writing Chase a thank you note, not calling them names.
If you don't like the terms of the card, send it back (along with the 100k miles).
To now complain that Chase is "dishonest" seems very strange to me.
We should all be writing Chase a thank you note, not calling them names.
If you don't like the terms of the card, send it back (along with the 100k miles).
Yes, this is third party info, and we can't hold Chase accountable for that. But, given the number of reports of the fee waiver by CSRs (I heard it myself, when activating my card) I think it's pretty reliable.
Certainly, the point of this forum is to share accurate information; not to misinform. If we report what we hear, and others act on that info, they certainly have a right to be unhappy, and, of course, they can cancel the card.
Since I did hear the CSR tell me my fee would be waived, I can only expect that to be true, and I will attempt to get my fees reversed.
#1184
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
Please folks get over it... not everyone was able to qualify for the card. If you don't want to pay the $75, please allow me to do so for you and I will gladly take the 100k miles
#1185
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
Dont be so gleeful.
It has been done by Chase before, on UA accounts, in case you are too new to the game and not aware of such - Chase deducted the ill-gotten UA miles from people's UA accounts, and at least in one reported case, UA turned around to bill an owner who redeemed the award and thus incurred a big negative balance in his UA account, at the going rate of UA's, as if the owner purchased miles from UA to redeem an award.
Never hear / read any update of said case after the first PANIC post when the poster received bill in the thousands. Wish the person would report back what ultimately happened. Alas, people tend NOT to report the outcome of bad cases that ultimately resolved AGAINST them, but would never hesitate a moment to report cases settled in favor for them. Human Nature...
It has been done by Chase before, on UA accounts, in case you are too new to the game and not aware of such - Chase deducted the ill-gotten UA miles from people's UA accounts, and at least in one reported case, UA turned around to bill an owner who redeemed the award and thus incurred a big negative balance in his UA account, at the going rate of UA's, as if the owner purchased miles from UA to redeem an award.
Never hear / read any update of said case after the first PANIC post when the poster received bill in the thousands. Wish the person would report back what ultimately happened. Alas, people tend NOT to report the outcome of bad cases that ultimately resolved AGAINST them, but would never hesitate a moment to report cases settled in favor for them. Human Nature...
Last edited by Happy; Dec 2, 2009 at 11:19 am