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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36840581)
In post 1250, you claimed, "the other airlineS are ALL making massive profits".
The fact that you decided to cherry pick a single example speaks volumes. (A) if CX enters SEA ---> money on fire" (B) if CX does not set money on fire ---> nobody will patronize CX Can you honestly tell us with a straight face that the second statement follows from the first (i.e try to think back to that logic class)? Pretty sure SQ gave an 8 month bonus vs CX's meagre 1 month... But idk I guess using your logic. SQ and EK are burning money at Adelaide while CX is wisely losing marketshare.... |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36840707)
why does EVA need DFW when they have IAH
Oh that's right. They can convince people to fly them regardless of Alliance.... New York used to be 4 daily and with 4 cabin classes.... CX cant fill F and cant fill J to the same extent. LAX was also 4 daily... But for your other comments are you sure that Cathay has the qualified crew and aircraft to return its capacity to what it had in 2019? Personally I don't believe so. Therefore it makes sense to continuously add flights including restoring some ports to earn the maximum profit with its available resources as and when they become available.. |
I offer this chart without further comment...
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...660ca80e55.jpg From: x.com/hkafofficial/status/1881869389458542947 (the HK Aviation Forum) |
Originally Posted by PaulC852
(Post 36840794)
I offer this chart without further comment...
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...660ca80e55.jpg From: x.com/hkafofficial/status/1881869389458542947 (the HK Aviation Forum) Hopefully people finally see that CX has lost market share and can't compete like they did in 2019. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36840581)
In post 1250, you claimed, "the other airlineS are ALL making massive profits".
The fact that you decided to cherry pick a single example speaks volumes. (A) if CX enters SEA ---> money on fire" (B) if CX does not set money on fire ---> nobody will patronize CX Can you honestly tell us with a straight face that the second statement follows from the first (i.e try to think back to that logic class)? Cathay has a massive service expansion next summer, so time would tell how well it does by then. Right now load factors are very good, so clearly some people still choose Cathay. Though I do agree Cathay could improve and innovate more in the future. That graph includes Dragonair, by the way, so it's not too realistic |
Originally Posted by majorpuppy
(Post 36840905)
That graph includes Dragonair, by the way, so it's not too realistic The confusion seems to have come from someone high up in Cathay originally announcing that it would restore its 2019 capacity by 2024.. They then realised that was totally unrealistic and they switched the statement from capacity to flights and increased the coverage to the whole group so that they could claim that they achieved the objective recovery. Sadly this sort of questionable wriggling is often found in big companies, especially those with a PR function. . |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36840707)
why does EVA need DFW when they have IAH
Oh that's right. They can convince le to fly them regardless of Alliance.... New York used to be 4 daily and with 4 cabin classes.... CX cant fill F and cant fill J to the same extent. LAX was also 4 daily... |
Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
(Post 36841717)
Hahaha, I'm laughing to death. According to Wikipedia, in 2023, DFW had 81.7 million passengers, while IAH only had 46 million, almost half of DFW. Therefore, the conclusion is actually the opposite of yours. It is insufficient for EVA to ONLY fly to *A hub IAH; they have to add DFW. Meanwhile, it is sufficient for CX to fly into DFW both because it is much larger than IAH and because it is an OW hub, killing two birds with one stone. I don't see ANY reason for CX to fly into IAH, a small *A hub.
IAH was Continental's hub. They merged with UA. There is minimal OW presence there so it makes more sense for BR to go IAH and do *A connections. Houston is also more energy-based. |
I'm still astonished people buy into the "lost market share" argument as something entirely internal to the way CX is run like Covid measures political disruption, the timing of plane deliveries etc. were entirely within the airline's control. How many times have we been over this?
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36843101)
I'm still astonished people buy into the "lost market share" argument as something entirely internal to the way CX is run like Covid measures political disruption, the timing of airline deliveries etc. were entirely within the airline's control. How many times have we been over this?
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36843101)
I'm still astonished people buy into the "lost market share" argument as something entirely internal to the way CX is run like Covid measures political disruption, the timing of plane deliveries etc. were entirely within the airline's control. How many times have we been over this?
they could have kept their pilots and not given their planes to QR and Air NZ. Regardless they are way behind in recovery and it is what it is. What i am shocked at is posters forcing people to pretend that CX has recovered and is just as competitive as it was pre covid. |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36843238)
CX got taxpayer money to stay afloat.
they could have kept their pilots and not given their planes to QR and Air NZ. |
MainlyMiles posts data showing really good load factors for SQ on SEA-SIN and speculates it's partly caused by lack of competition from CX:
https://mainlymiles.com/2025/01/26/s...weekly-flight/ Are we overestimating the bloodbath and lack of market there? |
Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36845932)
MainlyMiles posts data showing really good load factors for SQ on SEA-SIN and speculates it's partly caused by lack of competition from CX:
https://mainlymiles.com/2025/01/26/s...weekly-flight/ Are we overestimating the bloodbath and lack of market there? |
Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36845932)
MainlyMiles posts data showing really good load factors for SQ on SEA-SIN and speculates it's partly caused by lack of competition from CX:
https://mainlymiles.com/2025/01/26/s...weekly-flight/ Are we overestimating the bloodbath and lack of market there? They just don't want to fly CX. Just like CX can't fill a flight between BKK and SIN anymore... |
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