IIRC CX said their N. America all over 90% Patronage,

For Taiwan carriers, data are shown in this webpage.
(https://www.caa.gov.tw/article.aspx?a=1752&lang=1) (Chinese only)

What comes to my concern is Sep 2024, BR flights to SFO with that much capacity, but they got 66.9% patronage...... LAX 73.5%
Even if 77W is bigger than A350-900, the thing is are there any passenger?

delta TPE-SEA had a 55% load factor for 2 months in a row (probably going to have reductions next year), and most west coast flights from TPE sits at 60-75% load factors because of overcapacity and a bloodshed in TPE-SEA, frequencies doesn't mean everything. and NA isn't the only market, CX is much more present in Europe, austraila, India, south east Asia, mainland china etc. and has healthy load factors across the board globally and not just NA, at least 80% every month, even in low travel seasons. load factors are arguably more important than frequencies.

not ordering new planes- just ordered narrowbodies, A350F, 30 A339, and soon a big plane order again. is your hate and grudge for CX really that deep that you're spamming messages? cathay is not eva, they each have their different role in transit and passengers, eva focusing a lot on NA, cathay getting transit from all corners. about being conservative- its probably the opposite- CX and UO has a lot of monopoly markets and interesting, way more niche, small ones EVA also doesn't fly to. and a lot more are starting next year. a simple check on flight radar can show how many places CX and UO fly to. meanwhile EVA seems to have not added any destinations in a long time, DFW being a more predictable one.

Everyone, please stop feeding the troll. The best thing do with a troll (especially one who can't add) is to just ignore.

Compare fares on SEA-TPE with those on any CX NA route and you'll start to get sense that the underlying business business philosophies might differ a bit.

[QUOTE=Reply1984;36696924]Is there any public source on this? I saw some people on the a.net saying the same thing.[/QUO

I think there's only a slot filing in MUC, no announcement yet, but pretty sure it was filed for next summer, so its coming soon.

that also likely means LH isn't going to resume this route.

Relevant to some discussion in this thread, Cathay and UO together announce a return to 100% capacity by January:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

In the article, HK lawmaker Jeffrey Lam called for more Belt and Road routes and singles out Ipoh in Malaysia.

Law Cheung-kwok, policy director at the Chinese University of Hong Kong’s Aviation Policy and Research Centre, lists as priority route revivals Rome and Cape Town and claims there is a need for more frequency to Australia and new routes to Europe.

In this report by SCMP, it quoted from an insider that CX would announce a few destinations in Europe next month.

Let me guess: Rome, Munich, London Gatwick as possibilities.

For Europe, heard rumors of Munich and Brussels, other than that I guess it will be a UK destination. I also guess that there will be a increase of frequency for Manchester and Madrid to at least 1 daily sooner or later.

For Australia, I guess that Adelaide will resume sooner or later but Cathay will prioritise an increase in frequency for Perth and Brisbane to 2 daily, and if possible add another daily flight to Melbourne when the slot issues are sorted out.

Same treatment that should be afforrded to Trump and Musk.

For those watching North American resumptions:

"Booking data for the period ended July 2024 shows the top US markets for flights from Hong Kong included San Francisco, New York (JFK), Los Angeles (LAX) and Boston (BOS), Chicago (ORD) and Seattle (SEA) in order. "

https://simpleflying.com/hong-kong-a...nal-expansion/

I suspect CX will still not want to wade into the bloodbath of heavily competing Taiwanese carriers at SEA right now though.

MEL is soon going back to the pre-COVID schedule of 3x daily. While I would love to see a 4th frequency, I suspect it’s unlikely.

How is Seattle as a top market for flights from HK possible when there are no direct flights from HK to Seattle? If they're including flights involving a transit (such as Taipei), I wonder how reliable that data would be.

Yes, the data must include connection bookings. This is typical data relied upon to assess unserved routes that do not have direct connections.

I would imagine a ton of that traffic right now is routed through Taipei.

Demand between HK and Seattle should be quite solid, at least before the COVID.

IIRC, back in 2018, Cathay announced HKG-SEA launch as a 4-weekly flight service starting from April 2019, but before the inaugural flight, CX further boosted it to a daily service. They said the pre-sale data was so strong that they would rush to add more flights to Seattle. Maybe after CX starts to take the B779, we can see it back to Seattle very soon.