Counter-argument is why is JL bothering to fly to DOH if it doesn’t work out for CX?

I find JL is a model OW member - taking the trouble to fly to all of DOH, HEL and DFW to connect to the partners there. CX, QF and MH don’t bother (well not to all of them, anyway).

QR stopped their DOH-HND flight right when JL started it. Don't think QR cut a flight to HKG when CX used to fly to DOH.

CX should strongly resume HKG-DOH route using aircrafts with Aria Suites, replacing 1 of 2 flights operated by QR, which solely uses former Cathay B777-300ER with F to operate. This might urge QR to deploy Q Suites to HKG

Would QR allow a company 10% owned by them to compete with themself?

But at least Qatar should send planes with Q Suites to HKG

I believe that the route is a JV between QR & JL, with specific seats allocated between the 2 carriers.

why?
What's the point of investing in an airline if you can't reduce your product investment into that airlines hub....
they can use the Q suite on other more competitive routes.

Good point. This is exactly why UO should be deployed on as many regional routes, as possible.

I have to disagree respectfully. This does not seem to be the case on London where QR is the stakeholder of IAG. QR is not reducing any product investment in the LHR route, nor is BA relying solely on QR for DOH.

That said, I agree Q suite can be sent elsewhere. But personally I’d like the ex-CX aircraft removed from HKG.

CX is not in excess of long-haul aircraft before the delivery of B779 and they have been doing the calculation that which routes could generate the highest profits to determine where an aircraft will be deployed. It can easily tell that deploying them on JFK/YYZ/YVR is much more profitable than DOH.

Qatar is also short of airplanes too, given their earlier issues with Airbus A350 quality issues, delayed delivery of 787-9s, and now forever delays of 777-9s. That's why it has to work with its Oneworld partners for flights to certain destinations. I am sure QR will want to run its own aircraft to Tokyo Haneda, Madrid, Philadelphia, London Gatwick/Heathrow, and Kuala Lumpur too, but they just don't have enough planes to run all the service that they want to. For pre-Covid Hong Kong, the strong demand for flights is enough for QR to work with CX on additional Doha to Hong Kong flights, but given the current demand, twice daily flights are sufficient. I don't see CX bringing back Doha anytime soon.

Back to the topic, I think CX possibly has maxed out new long haul destinations for 2025 especially there are no new wide-body planes coming soon. Seasonal service seems to be the theme now. CX seems to run some flights to secondary destinations in Europe during summer, and then some flights to secondary destinations in Australia during winter (Summer there). That is a great strategy.

With more A321Neos coming, I wonder what regional destinations will CX restart!

Carfield

Some good news is that B779 is poised to resume some level of testing activity. Hope the delivery will not be pushed to 2027…

https:/x.com/mattcawby/status/1878961699728110001?s=46

Seems like CX is adding an extra daily to DPS this summer with their new A321Neos.

Noon HKG departure connects well with morning arrivals from Mainland China and Taiwan. Midnight arrival on return only connects with the 2am JFK departure.

Wonder if CX is trying to recapture the O&D traffic from HX and QZ.

Should CX launch below routes using A330 with 28J, to supplement existing routes ?
1. OOL (only when HX not operating)
2. CBR
3. West Sydney
and below with A350 or B777-300ER:
1. VIE
2. WAW
3. LYS

I can't comment on the hardware but I would imagine:

OOL - this is a seasonal route so why would CX operate it off season?
CBR - very small as noted upthread and very close to both MEL and SYD. Plus ADL and even Hobart are much more active at trying to get CX to (re)start so I would be shocked if it happened before or in place of either of those two (particularly ADL which is probably the only realistic new CX Australia launch in the near future)
West Sydney - maybe they could switch some SYD flights there but I don't know enough about the market or airspace issues

Also important to remember CX is constrained by a cap in Australia so its flights there have to be efficiently distributed to the best locations, and with recent announcements since the last cap expansion that's seemed to mean thickening existing destinations more than adding new ones.

VIE/WAW - I have thought these might be a possibility given they have no coverage in Central/Eastern Europe, HK is lacking in it as well, and Austrian used to serve HK but no longer does (and CX has picked up the slack on some of those former carrier routes like MUC and DFW in 2024). That said they might look at BUD for political / economic interaction with China reasons more, while VIE is closer to other destinations
LYS - seems very unlikely; there is zero presence/interest from other Asian carriers indicating a market plus CDG is a direct connection TGV ride in under two hours. To the extent Asian carriers are looking into the nearby market they're going to Geneva which is more premium and not linked by as fast trains to either Paris or Zurich