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Originally Posted by majorpuppy
(Post 36578512)
It's increasing to 2 daily soon, and AC will fly less.
It feels like all foreign operators are going to continue fly less to HKG and CX would take all of it, like DXB Funny that the bilateral works in a way that the total number is fixed, one side has to release in order for the other side to add? |
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1. CX may not return to Gatwick anytime soon. During an interview with Cathay CEO, he said CX would not necessarily resume service to all the destinations back to 2019 when asked about Gatwick.
https://www.headforpoints.com/2024/1...rn-to-gatwick/ “At London Heathrow we have five daily flights, which is a very strong frequency. Five flights a day for 13 hour flights is actually a lot, when you think about it. So, yeah, we’re happy with what we have. And London Heathrow is slot constrained, so we cannot get slots there anyway.” What about Gatwick? Cathay Pacific previously operated to the secondary London airport pre-covid. Notably, Singapore Airlines launched flights to Gatwick this summerand is increasing it to a daily service, which shows it must be going well. Would Cathay Pacific do the same? “When we talk about pre-pandemic, it’s already five years ago. So our goal is not to look at what we had five years ago. Our goal is to look at what the market needs nowadays. So I think we will assess each destination by the latest market supply and demand, and then we’ll decide which routes are good to launch. If it makes economic sense, if there’s customer demand on a certain route, yeah, we’ll certainly go back. But we’re not necessarily just eyeing what we had in 2019.” Lack of aircraft, which is plaguing many other airlines, does not seem to be the issue. Ronald explained that they have “flexibility” in their aircraft supply and are able to “extend the lease of certain aircraft so we won’t be constrained by that delay.” https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...t-lead-1571487 |
Originally Posted by Reply1984
(Post 36611896)
1. CX may not return to Gatwick anytime soon. During an interview with Cathay CEO, he said CX would not necessarily resume service to all the destinations back to 2019 when asked about Gatwick.
https://www.headforpoints.com/2024/1...rn-to-gatwick/ 2. CX may be back to Hyderabad in the foreseeable future, given that CX started to hire local airport staff in Hyderabad. https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...t-lead-1571487 |
Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 36612046)
Re. LGW- I think these are very fair comments from the CEO. HKG, and hence travel demand is very different now compared to 2019/20 levels, and as he rightly points out, the airline is needing to look forward to the future. This entails that we may not necessarily see all routes resumed that were suspended in the wake of Covid, including longer standing ones such as FCO. Hence these comments don't apply to only Gatwick specifically. Moreover, he is not necessarily ruling out a return to LGW specifically either, nor does he give an indication of when the airline could return to Gatwick. He makes a fair point to say that the airline will assess a new (or potentially-to-be-resumed) route on its merits of demand, supply and economical viability. These conditions change continuously. So I'd be inclined to say that he is not definitively saying yes or no to an LGW resumption at the moment, it's still very much a case of waiting and seeing, but I agree in the sense that any LGW return is unlikely to happen soon, especially as 3 of the 5 flights to/from LHR will be transitioning to the A350 on W24.
Thats why CX is launching DFW. |
HK Express is launching service to Shizuoka
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Originally Posted by pochi
(Post 36612080)
Totally agree.
Thats why CX is launching DFW. |
Originally Posted by pochi
(Post 36612312)
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HKG 0915 FSZ 1345 (SAT: 0855-1345) UO 895 1445 FSZ 1840 HKG (SAT:1445-1900) 3 weekly (Tuesday Thursday Saturday) Re: Gatwick, I understand CX's logic but I have yet to fly LHR-HKG post-pandemic at a time when these flights were not full. Understand others have pointed out that loads slackened outside of student travel times, but this year seems maybe to be proving that there is sufficient demand even outside the student season... |
Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36615065)
Always shocked at the level of service HK carriers provide to Japanese cities I didn't even know about.
Re: Gatwick, I understand CX's logic but I have yet to fly LHR-HKG post-pandemic at a time when these flights were not full. Understand others have pointed out that loads slackened outside of student travel times, but this year seems maybe to be proving that there is sufficient demand even outside the student season... as a matter of fact, I think post pandemic hong kong visitors to everywhere in the world except japan has fell. i think its a reason europe flights would never return to 2018 levels, because of the security situation and people preferring shorter destinations after the pandemic. |
Originally Posted by majorpuppy
(Post 36615101)
hong kongers see japan as their second home, when there's a chance they would go to japan. some people I think go every weekend. honestly its extremely insane. its also helped by people from mainland china
as a matter of fact, I think post pandemic hong kong visitors to everywhere in the world except japan has fell. i think its a reason europe flights would never return to 2018 levels, because of the security situation and people preferring shorter destinations after the pandemic. another reason would be chinese carriers offering dirt cheap fares (saw hkg-lhr round trip on MU/CA drop below $3000 hkd with pretty short connections) causing the european market to sort of crash |
I'm aware of the "second home" thing but always interests me how HKers are traveling to these third and fourth tier Japanese cities specifically to the extent that it can justify direct service. Many small Japanese cities are not the most exciting or downright economically depressed...they must be targeting some nearby landscape or attraction for a quick trip?
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36616631)
I'm aware of the "second home" thing but always interests me how HKers are traveling to these third and fourth tier Japanese cities specifically to the extent that it can justify direct service. Many small Japanese cities are not the most exciting or downright economically depressed...they must be targeting some nearby landscape or attraction for a quick trip?
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Interesting - wonder why there wasn't service there before. An increase in people going directly to Mt. Fuji?
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Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36617263)
Interesting - wonder why there wasn't service there before. An increase in people going directly to Mt. Fuji?
A bit shorter bus trip compared to HND/NRT -> Shinjuku by bus or to Tokyo Station then JRCentral. Several carrier serves FSZ airport from East China (PVG and HGH) and Korea. I flew JD (Bejing Capital Air) once in 2017. Maybe a good attempt for tourism from HKG/Great Bay Area? I also found an increasing number of trip posts of climbing Mt. Fuji from Chinese Social Media this year. |
i think shizouka airport has subsidies. not sure.
regardless quite a lot of hongkongers would rather explore the whole of japan than go to any other nearby country, which is interesting, I guess it is what it is. exploring less popular places might make you find "secrets" as well. |
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