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majorpuppy Sep 23, 2024 10:07 pm

very fascinating. i thought CX already had enough connectivity with AA, but this would make it limitless.

AA is giving up this route to CX, despite the route performing well in the past. that means AA is officially not coming back.

the question is would cx have a shortage of A350 after this, considering the massive frequency increases apart from this. also this is a good way to stop starlux from getting into oneworld..





CarefreeBA Sep 23, 2024 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by majorpuppy (Post 36547399)
very fascinating. i thought CX already had enough connectivity with AA, but this would make it limitless.

AA is giving up this route to CX, despite the route performing well in the past. that means AA is officially not coming back.

the question is would cx have a shortage of A350 after this, considering the massive frequency increases apart from this. also this is a good way to stop starlux from getting into oneworld..

Connectivity is always favoured around the operating airlines' hub. In this case, it is believed that CX can gain more traffic from DFW-HKG/South East Asia/Mainland China than AA could from US-(only)HKG. Theoretically, it's of course possible but you can see the degree of flexibility that, for example, AA/BA joint venture has bought connectivity on both sides of the Atlantic.

There will not be an A350-1000 shortage as aircraft on other routes are being swapped to B777-300ERs (iirc. FRA is one of them?).

gwang0618 Sep 23, 2024 10:26 pm

Is this DFW thing official? So far I have not found a single source except FT.

Reply1984 Sep 23, 2024 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by gwang0618 (Post 36547429)
Is this DFW thing official? So far I have not found a single source except FT.

you can book it via cathaypacific.com if you like

CarefreeBA Sep 23, 2024 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by gwang0618 (Post 36547429)
Is this DFW thing official? So far I have not found a single source except FT.

It's official to the point that you can go on cathaypacific.com and book the flight.

4 flights per week, on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. (D1246)

djsflynn Sep 23, 2024 10:45 pm

DFW just officially announced

Cathay Pacific is pleased to announce it is further expanding its North America network with the launch of non-stop flights between Hong Kong and Dallas Fort Worth International Airport (DFW) for the very first time. The new service, scheduled to commence on 24 April 2025, marks Cathay Pacific’s sixth passenger destination in the United States and eighth in North America, further reinforcing the airline’s presence on the continent while bolstering the global connectivity of its home hub, Hong Kong.

Cathay Group Chief Customer and Commercial Officer Lavinia Lau said: “With our unique position of having deep roots in Hong Kong, being proudly part of China, and connecting the world, Cathay continues to build Hong Kong as a leading international aviation hub that connects people to the most exciting places in the world.

“Dallas Fort Worth International Airport is one of the world’s busiest airports. With our Cathay Pacific codeshares as well as other flight options, customers can connect to over 190 domestic destinations in the United States, as well as 11 destinations in Central and South America via DFW, further enhancing Hong Kong’s connectivity with North America and important Belt and Road Initiative participating countries.”

Currently, Cathay Pacific operates 88 return passenger flights per week to destinations in North America, including Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver. To complement its existing network in North America, the airline will operate four return flights per week between Hong Kong and DFW using its modern Airbus A350-1000 aircraft.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d96b9ccf71.png


QRC3288 Sep 23, 2024 10:48 pm

Wow!! thx for update djsflynn

boybi Sep 23, 2024 11:46 pm

How long will HKG-DFW flight be?

allianceflyer9506 Sep 24, 2024 12:03 am


Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 36547455)

really good news and for CX897 it's timed for early morning flights to TPE and CX907 to MNL T3 CX921 to Cebu from HKG.

allianceflyer9506 Sep 24, 2024 12:13 am

Combined DFW-HKG HKG-MNL
 

Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 36547430)
you can book it via cathaypacific.com if you like

you can do it in advance it turns out you can actually combine that flight with a HKG-MNL segment. The way its showing up is CX897 to CX901 departure on the Dallas end is 11:55 p.m. Central Time arrival in Manila Philippines is 11:20 a.m. Date I did is April 28th 2025 to May 8th 2025. The return trip is going to be your problem because it's showing up as CX930 to 898 1hr connection in HKG. To get around that one hour connection delay it might be possible to take the earlier flights before it CX906/976.

oldchinahand Sep 24, 2024 12:25 am

Cathay will introduce non-stop flights between Hong Kong (HKG) and Dallas Fort Worth (DFW) starting April 2025.



The airline has also announced greatly expanded schedules on existing North American routes.

With New York receiving thrice-daily return flights while San Francisco, Los Angeles.
Boston and Chicago will each receive daily return flights.
Canadian services will also see growth, with Vancouver receiving two daily return flights and Toronto 13 weekly return flights.

NZflyer777 Sep 24, 2024 3:44 am


Originally Posted by majorpuppy (Post 36547399)
very fascinating. i thought CX already had enough connectivity with AA, but this would make it limitless.

AA is giving up this route to CX, despite the route performing well in the past. that means AA is officially not coming back.

the question is would cx have a shortage of A350 after this, considering the massive frequency increases apart from this. also this is a good way to stop starlux from getting into oneworld..

I think next year you are going to see less of the A350 om short haul flights.

CX will better use the regional A330s and 777

Overall frequency to NA is still well behind 2019 even after DFW.


An exciting addition!
already looking at using it for the next trip to Mexico

gwang0618 Sep 24, 2024 3:48 am


Originally Posted by NZflyer777 (Post 36547841)
I think next year you are going to see less of the A350 om short haul flights.

CX will better use the regional A330s and A350s

Overall frequency to NA is still well behind 2019 even after DFW.


An exciting addition!

The gap is not that big.

Beginning NS25,
ORD and BOS will both be 7 weekly
LAX, JFK and SFO are all 21 weekly
YVR and YYZ both 14 weekly
with the addition of 4 weekly DFW

the only decline since pandemic is 7 weekly on JFK, 4-5 weekly on IAD, 6 weekly on SEA and 5 weekly on EWR.


djsflynn Sep 24, 2024 4:31 am


Originally Posted by boybi (Post 36547517)
How long will HKG-DFW flight be?

Dunno but it's live and bookable now so you can jump onto the CX website, enter the city pair and there's your answer.

US HK UK flyer Sep 24, 2024 4:46 am

I have a feeling AA had something to do with this route given it will feed them traffic. They may have been worried about coming back to HK because they saw it as more of a risk now whether in political or economic terms, but happy to be paid to take on interline passengers.

The statement from Lavinia Lau in SCMP is a very funny example of CX trying to have its cake and eat it too in arguing that this is actually a "Belt and Road" connector route because of AA connections to Latin America:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

Everyone finding ways to make money in this geopolitical environment. ;)


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