What "slang" are you talking about?

HK/TW slang for JX and BR. Resumption for HKG-DVO
 

I'm talking about how Hong Kongers and Taiwanese refer to Starlux as Xingu while Evergeen is Eva Air. Therefore HKG-TPE is simply TW3 vs CX. Back to the route resumptions topic CX/UO should restart KA347/KA348 HKG-DVO. That one is helpful for OFWS in Davao region to reach HKG directly. Extension EWR CX899/890 JFK CX831/830 840/843 and 844/841.

But, those are both correct statements, no? How do you think they should refer to them?

DVO/HKG should also carry plenty of fresh seafood and fruit in the belly.

Question during the KA347/348 era
 

Thanks for tellling me about that when KA operated DVO-HKG did they use B-HSx A320-232s B-HTx A321-231s with LD3-45s to carry them or bulk loaded? LD3-45 seems to be a better fit if CX wanted their newer B-HSx A320-251Ns and later B-HPx A321-251Ns that way an LD3-45 seafood/fruit Balikbayan boxes going from DVO to USA/Canada can be loaded onto the larger B-HNx B77Ws B-KPx B-KQx fleets A359s B-LRx B-LQx B-LXx A35Ks.

Interesting to check in on the competition. United load factors in the Pacific show its flights to HK from LA and SF are among its highest load factors:

https://i0.wp.com/crankyflier.com/wp...00%2C653&ssl=1
See: https://crankyflier.com/2024/04/22/u...ts-down-under/

At the same time Delta is pulling back from adding LAX-Shanghai:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/delt...hanghai-route/

What to take away here? HKG demand from the US is good, but maybe not as driven by mainland demand as expected? Perhaps that could mean HK routes are resilient/added even as more mainland routes are (or instead of them). Cathay could take advantage, but it doesn't seem to be its priority right now.

I agree that HKG demand from the US is good, but that's for the flight itself. What are the customers ultimate point of origin and destination? CX has limitations as to what it can operate right now, as I'm sure you'd know. US-CN flights are restricted to 50fpw at the moment so connections through HKG and NRT are the most enticing for travellers who can't get on/willing to pay for direct US-CN flights. A lot of US-HK traffic is connecting onto Mainland China.

At the end of the day, it's cheaper for CX to connect pax from US-HK onto HK-CN than it is for UA to connect onto another partner/codeshare. Therefore my understanding is: if CX could add flights to the US right now, it would've already done so.

i think CX is really in a sweet spot in terms of North America markets.

US airlines are short of planes, CN airlines have enough planes but do not have enough traffic rights, TW airlines cannot connect passengers from Mainland, JP airlines struggle with complicated transit visa rules, and South Korea airlines are busy with the merger and regulators.

Yes CX are also short of pilots, but don’t forget HK airport is also in shortage of ground service. So CX really do not have any urgency to lure those expensive pilots back. They are just enjoying tons of profits generated from its monopoly market position.

Starlux Airlines will begin Hong Kong flights effective July 8, 2024 with twice daily flights.
One in the morning and one in the evening

Both flights will allow convenient connections to both LAX and SFO flights.
Seattle will be a bit tricky because the outbound flight from Taipei to Seattle will depart a bit earlier but return will be fine.

Carfield

Just to note (although this news is also relevant to Cathay) there is a separate thread in the HK forum for other airlines starting/resuming/ending service to HKG:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hong...oming-hkg.html

i think UA has a agreement with HX that's one reason why they're so successful. another reason is plenty of non flight connections such as high speed rail or ferries to a lot of places

While it's true that HX has lots of codeshare partners, I'm pretty sure UA isn't one of them.

Isn't this a benefit for every airline flying to HKG?

First of all, I don't find United's HK traffic volumes nearly as jaw dropping as some of the bloggers like to portray them. But, I think the reason they are doing fairly well boils down to the fact that they are in the unique position of being able to capture traffic from the entire US. Whether those people stay in HK or move onto other places isn't really their concern. For destinations in Asia that they don't serve, ANA is unquestionably their preferred partner (thanks to the anticompetitive JV).

Today cx ceo Ronald Lam said that CX will launch new destinations where HK passengers had not visited before by direct flight

details will be announced in second half of this year

where are the new destinations? muscat? Casablanca ? Budapest 😄?