Your guide to spending Avios | 2021 edition
#301
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What the agent said actually makes no sense anyway.
If we knew what ABC and XYZ are, it would take some of the abstract guesswork out of the equation.
#302
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: OW
Posts: 226
The old rule was actually that ABC-XYZ must be shorter than both ABC-LHR and LHR-XYZ, although with a UK start and finish this was rarely an issue with old-style vouchers.
What the agent said actually makes no sense anyway.
If we knew what ABC and XYZ are, it would take some of the abstract guesswork out of the equation.
What the agent said actually makes no sense anyway.
If we knew what ABC and XYZ are, it would take some of the abstract guesswork out of the equation.
#303
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Thanks for the response and apologies, should have been more clear - GIG-LHR-XYZ. Trying to figure out whether XYZ is in fact limited to GRU / LIM (if restarted) or I can travel further afield (e.g. MRU / HKG / BKK), and whether XYZ needs to be in the same fare zone as GIG (which I suspect is still the case).
However, looking at your options, here is the list. In each case, the last line is the surface sector, and you can see why (at least under the old rule) GRU and LIM would be fine, but MRU, BKK and HKG would not:
GIG-LHR 5734 mi
LHR-GRU 5863 mi
GRU-GIG 210 mi
GIG-LHR 5734 mi
LHR-LIM 6301 mi
LIM-GIG 2349 mi
GIG-LHR 5734 mi
LHR-MRU 6068 mi
MRU-GIG 6341 mi
GIG-LHR 5734 mi
LHR-BKK 5958 mi
BKK-GIG 10007 mi
GIG-LHR 5734 mi
LHR-HKG 5994 mi
HKG-GIG 10989 mi
#304
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: OW
Posts: 226
XYZ never needed to be in the same zone. LHR-SYD//HKG-LHR was always permitted.
However, looking at your options, here is the list. In each case, the last line is the surface sector, and you can see why (at least under the old rule) GRU and LIM would be fine, but MRU, BKK and HKG would not:
However, looking at your options, here is the list. In each case, the last line is the surface sector, and you can see why (at least under the old rule) GRU and LIM would be fine, but MRU, BKK and HKG would not:
#306
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Near Manchester
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 397
Avios Hotel only booking
Thanks for everyone's help on here, I've had a read through and not seen anything relating to my query.
I made a hotel booking using Avios for May this year, which I now no longer require. I understand there's the £35 cancellation charge, but I should get my avios back.
I rang Avios up this morning (Warrington number) and spoke to the advisor. She could not find the booking using the booking reference number, my BAEC number or my email address. She suggested I ring BA up.
This isn't a BA Holiday, it's a stand alone booking but she seemed to think because I booked it through the BA website (using make a booking with avios) that is the issue.
So, does anyone know if BA Holidays would be able to sort it, or is there some other solution to this. Thanks in advance 😊
I made a hotel booking using Avios for May this year, which I now no longer require. I understand there's the £35 cancellation charge, but I should get my avios back.
I rang Avios up this morning (Warrington number) and spoke to the advisor. She could not find the booking using the booking reference number, my BAEC number or my email address. She suggested I ring BA up.
This isn't a BA Holiday, it's a stand alone booking but she seemed to think because I booked it through the BA website (using make a booking with avios) that is the issue.
So, does anyone know if BA Holidays would be able to sort it, or is there some other solution to this. Thanks in advance 😊
#307
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 46
If i book ABC-DOH-XYZ on QR with Avios, ABC-DOH in Business, DOH-XYZ in First, I get an error on the website. Is it possible to book that over the phone? There is no First Class on ABC-DOH, will I have to pay the First Class Avios rate for the whole trip or just for the second leg?
#308
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 6
Trying to piece together an epic multi-partner award in J for the end of the year. Here is the routing that I have in mind.
jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel-akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk. Total 49526 miles.
Here are some questions I have:
1- can I go back and stop more than once in the same place (HKG in this routing)
2- is it like a RTW ticket or is it ok to « backtrack » and change the direction of travel?
3- what is the maximum number of segments? 16?
thanks for your help.
jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel-akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk. Total 49526 miles.
Here are some questions I have:
1- can I go back and stop more than once in the same place (HKG in this routing)
2- is it like a RTW ticket or is it ok to « backtrack » and change the direction of travel?
3- what is the maximum number of segments? 16?
thanks for your help.
#309
Join Date: Jul 2021
Programs: AP AS BA
Posts: 365
Trying to piece together an epic multi-partner award in J for the end of the year. Here is the routing that I have in mind.
jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel-akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk. Total 49526 miles.
Here are some questions I have:
1- can I go back and stop more than once in the same place (HKG in this routing)
2- is it like a RTW ticket or is it ok to « backtrack » and change the direction of travel?
3- what is the maximum number of segments? 16?
thanks for your help.
jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel-akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk. Total 49526 miles.
Here are some questions I have:
1- can I go back and stop more than once in the same place (HKG in this routing)
2- is it like a RTW ticket or is it ok to « backtrack » and change the direction of travel?
3- what is the maximum number of segments? 16?
thanks for your help.
The max number of segments is 8. Thus, I would encourage you to book it in two tickets: jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel followed by akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk You should find your own way between MEL and AKL
#310
Join Date: Feb 2022
Posts: 6
I'm pretty sure you can't backtrack to HKG (if/when it reopens). Not sure if you can do HNL-JFK either.
The max number of segments is 8. Thus, I would encourage you to book it in two tickets: jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel followed by akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk You should find your own way between MEL and AKL
The max number of segments is 8. Thus, I would encourage you to book it in two tickets: jfk-nrt-Icn-tpe -hkg-mel followed by akl-hkg-cpt-doh-mad-lax-hnl-jfk You should find your own way between MEL and AKL
As anyone been able to locate the rules? Is that doc public?
Aeroplan limtis epic routings to 16 segments, but it's 8 segments for BA EC?
Splitting the journey would mean almost 50%+ as much Avios
#311
Join Date: Jul 2021
Programs: AP AS BA
Posts: 365
There's more info on this FT thread.
There's an official T&C for BAEC somewhere regarding multi-carrier awards but I can't find it.
There's an official T&C for BAEC somewhere regarding multi-carrier awards but I can't find it.
#313
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 247
Had a look and could not find an answer to this one...
Yesterday by some miracle I found 2 F seats to SIN. Not wanting to loose them I quickly booked them. Now I would like to tag Avios redemption from any T3 destinations, I am assuming this is possible. Is it just C class Avios redemption that needs to be available?
This is then going to be B2B, so it would be one of T3 destinations that B2B is possible from. I will obviously have F class boarding card for SIN later that day. Will I be able to access CX F class lounge in T3 before my flight out of T3? Also on arrival back to LHR to T3 I need to connect to T5 for SIN flight. Is there any way to access CX lounge again before heading off to T5?
Yesterday by some miracle I found 2 F seats to SIN. Not wanting to loose them I quickly booked them. Now I would like to tag Avios redemption from any T3 destinations, I am assuming this is possible. Is it just C class Avios redemption that needs to be available?
This is then going to be B2B, so it would be one of T3 destinations that B2B is possible from. I will obviously have F class boarding card for SIN later that day. Will I be able to access CX F class lounge in T3 before my flight out of T3? Also on arrival back to LHR to T3 I need to connect to T5 for SIN flight. Is there any way to access CX lounge again before heading off to T5?
#314
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if you mean add in these t3 flights to your existing reward booking you can't do that. you can book them as a separate booking tho.
when you come back to t3 you can go through connections and get back in to t airside departures area to use the CX lounge. do leave plenty of time to get to t5, and do familiarise yourself on how to get to the airside buses.
if you have your SIN F bp you should be able to access the CX F lounge by presenting that.
when you come back to t3 you can go through connections and get back in to t airside departures area to use the CX lounge. do leave plenty of time to get to t5, and do familiarise yourself on how to get to the airside buses.
if you have your SIN F bp you should be able to access the CX F lounge by presenting that.
#315
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Oxford (&Western Isles )
Programs: BA GGL, CCR; RyanAir MillionMiler :( ;
Posts: 756
where is best place to try to book avios reward flights (or upgrades) for internal Australia flights? BA sit doesn't recognise airport (uluru) but Quantas fly there from SYD. Thanks!