FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#1486
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Thank you. No, it didn't address the question of how long the 25% reduction lasts, and what BA mean by "next time you're up for renewal", or at least not in a way I understood. BA have not made it clear what they mean by "next time you're up for renewal" under the "something to make you smile" rules. Is it April 2021 (my membership year end) or April 2022 (when the status extension ends)? They don't say.
I don't know yet. It depends very much on the 25% reduction. I'd be pissed off if I wait until after my current membership end date, which is April 2021, and find the 25% reduction disappears at that point and I haven't taken advantage of it. If I get 25% off until the end of my second membership year, April 2022, I may wait.
I had planned to go for Silver between April 8th and May 31st this year, as I'd never intended to be Bronze, but that's history. I've cancelled all my upcoming trips and things are much more complex now. Some of the factors that would influence my decision on when to go for Silver now would be my own health, that of my partner, how safe we feel it is to travel, what class of travel we decide to use (or can get on our companion vouchers, as availability may differ due to heavily revised timetables), whether we need to visit family for any reason (funerals are a consideration) and when we decide to use our companion vouchers. If "next time you're up for renewal" means April 8th 2022 (when the 12 month extension ends) then that gives me more latitude and I can sit back and see what happens over the next few months.
I don't know yet. It depends very much on the 25% reduction. I'd be pissed off if I wait until after my current membership end date, which is April 2021, and find the 25% reduction disappears at that point and I haven't taken advantage of it. If I get 25% off until the end of my second membership year, April 2022, I may wait.
I had planned to go for Silver between April 8th and May 31st this year, as I'd never intended to be Bronze, but that's history. I've cancelled all my upcoming trips and things are much more complex now. Some of the factors that would influence my decision on when to go for Silver now would be my own health, that of my partner, how safe we feel it is to travel, what class of travel we decide to use (or can get on our companion vouchers, as availability may differ due to heavily revised timetables), whether we need to visit family for any reason (funerals are a consideration) and when we decide to use our companion vouchers. If "next time you're up for renewal" means April 8th 2022 (when the 12 month extension ends) then that gives me more latitude and I can sit back and see what happens over the next few months.
If you want to go for silver between now and 8 April 2021 then once you get to the reduced threshold and eligible flights you will go up to silver straight away, you would become silver for the rest of your current year and the next full membership year, i.e. the rest of now to 8 April 2021, and 9 April 2021 to 8 April 2022.
If you don't wish to travel atm, you can aim to get the reduced threshold in your 9 April 2021 to 8 April 2022 collection year. You would become silver once you hit the threshold to the end of that collection year, and the next full membership year, i.e. from when you hit the TP to 8 April 2022, and 9 April 2022 to 8 April 2023.
#1487
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 932
I think that maybe you misread the dates here - or if not I have also missed something upthread. Both of the posts you quoted concern Aug expiry (Jul 8 TP reset), and give anecdotal support that those who requalified at their current level with post-June TP reset dates (i.e. July, Aug. etc.) may still be given a year extra via a further adjustment.
Last edited by GinFizz; Jul 1, 2020 at 6:13 am
#1488
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
Must be some difference tho... Maybe still hope that you will get 2022 as well.
#1489
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 46
It's partner cards and those who qualified for a higher tier (which then extends one's end date to the end of the following year). For those who don't qualify for a higher tier (or can't - such as GGLs), then the model doesn't work anywhere near so well. My extended date is 31 Aug 2021.
#1490
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 49
Similarly to what someone else said upthread, I didn't read much into this, assuming I wouldn't benefit. I secured silver in January, earning status for this and next year, through to Jan 2022. Assumed the 12 month extension wouldn't apply as I'd already got it for the following 12 months, but misunderstood that completely so was nice to see a further 12 months added today to take me to Jan 2023! Very pleased with that
Will I still get 25% reduction to renew for my collection year starting, I'm assuming, 8 Dec 2021?
Will I still get 25% reduction to renew for my collection year starting, I'm assuming, 8 Dec 2021?
Last edited by JamieG; Jul 1, 2020 at 12:05 am
#1491
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: OneWorld Emerald (BA GGL), *A Silver (Miles & Less), Skyteam Pleb (KLM FlyingBlue), Mucci Platinum
Posts: 907
I'm grateful to BA for the GGL extension, but at the same time bemused by the wording below. You'd have thought they'd have changed the wording given the lack of Covid flying this year!
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
#1492
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 274
Hello all!
I have a question regarding leniency for trips booked towards the end of a collection year, and then cancelled by BA. I'm currently Silver, 195 TP from Gold, with a TP collection year end of 8th Sept.
I have a BA holidays booking for a CW return trip in the first week of Sept, returning 7th Sept - I've already had two holidays cancelled for that week, so am hoping it will be third time lucky!
This trip will easily earn me the 195 TP I need to attain Gold - but I'm concerned that it will be cancelled at short notice, leaving me little time to get the requisite points. What would happen in this scenario? Would I just have to find some other way of getting the 195 TPs in that final week of my collection year? Is the two-week extension still being granted despite the reduced requirements?
Or is there any leniency and hope of being able to claim the TPs even though the flight is cancelled?
Or would the advice be to do a TP run or two and get the 195 TP in the bag in July/Aug?
Many thanks in advance for any advice!
I have a question regarding leniency for trips booked towards the end of a collection year, and then cancelled by BA. I'm currently Silver, 195 TP from Gold, with a TP collection year end of 8th Sept.
I have a BA holidays booking for a CW return trip in the first week of Sept, returning 7th Sept - I've already had two holidays cancelled for that week, so am hoping it will be third time lucky!
This trip will easily earn me the 195 TP I need to attain Gold - but I'm concerned that it will be cancelled at short notice, leaving me little time to get the requisite points. What would happen in this scenario? Would I just have to find some other way of getting the 195 TPs in that final week of my collection year? Is the two-week extension still being granted despite the reduced requirements?
Or is there any leniency and hope of being able to claim the TPs even though the flight is cancelled?
Or would the advice be to do a TP run or two and get the 195 TP in the bag in July/Aug?
Many thanks in advance for any advice!
#1493
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I'm grateful to BA for the GGL extension, but at the same time bemused by the wording below. You'd have thought they'd have changed the wording given the lack of Covid flying this year!
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
#1494
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
I'm grateful to BA for the GGL extension, but at the same time bemused by the wording below. You'd have thought they'd have changed the wording given the lack of Covid flying this year!
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
"Dear Mr TMT,
Here at the Executive Club, we think our Members should be rewarded, which is why you earn Tier Points when you fly with us. We’re truly grateful for your loyalty, reflected in the 0 Tier Points that you’ve earned this membership year."
#1495
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Miami Beach FL, Philadelphia PA, and Oxfordshire UK
Programs: BA Gold, AA Executive Platinum, PriorityPass, Global Entry, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 737
Yes, those with dates into 2022 are likely to be those who upgraded in the current year. they already hard card expiry dates in 2021 so adding 12 months gets them in to 2022.
Hopefully this may help explain a bit more https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32476015-post1142.html
Hopefully this may help explain a bit more https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32476015-post1142.html
My year would extend to 2021 in October anyway without this , so I assume come October 9th, nothing will happen to my account apart from my hard earned tier points will reset to zero and the card expiry date will remain November 2021?
Or will come October 9th, will a year be added on to my account and it will say “card expiry November 30th 2022”?
#1496
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So basically will those of us like me who have already requalified this year for Gold with a October year end get nothing?
My year would extend to 2021 in October anyway without this , so I assume come October 9th, nothing will happen to my account apart from my hard earned tier points will reset to zero and the card expiry date will remain November 2021?
Or will come October 9th, will a year be added on to my account and it will say “card expiry November 30th 2022”?
My year would extend to 2021 in October anyway without this , so I assume come October 9th, nothing will happen to my account apart from my hard earned tier points will reset to zero and the card expiry date will remain November 2021?
Or will come October 9th, will a year be added on to my account and it will say “card expiry November 30th 2022”?
Reduced thresholds still apply of course.
#1497
Join Date: Jul 2005
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That might be what they secretly think, but I would recommend some softer, more encouraging language to be shared with the customer
#1498
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Priority Spire, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 176
Does anyone know how to get hold of BA Executive club contacts regarding a status upgrade?
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks
#1499
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Jersey CI
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 79
Does anyone know how to get hold of BA Executive club contacts regarding a status upgrade?
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks
#1500
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Does anyone know how to get hold of BA Executive club contacts regarding a status upgrade?
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks
My wife is on 580 Tier points with her earning year ending 8 July. We had a return leg from DXB booked in April which was changed several times and then cancelled and ended up stuck in Dubai for 6 weeks. Unfortunately BA have not yet resumed flights and so we were forced to return on an emirates repatriation flight in May.
Had we been able to take that flight she would have reached 600 Tier points. For obvious health, safety and government linguine reasons we did not book a Tier point run flight within Europe.
When receiving our refund we were advised that BA would honor the 35 Tier points on the return booking but as yet this has not happened. We have also submitted several queries but with no reply and we are unable to get through on the phones.
I completely understand the current unprecedented scenario and the need to see to other more urgent customer queries. However having always been very loyal to BA over the years we would be upset if there wasn't any way of honoring the Tier points for our return leg or at least extending the earning period.
I welcome any advice on this matter and whether there is anything we can do in the next 7 days.
Thanks