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Old Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.

*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.

Current strike period:
  • None

Next announced strike period:

    Previous strike periods:
    • 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
    • 10th & 11th January 2017
    • 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
    • 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
    • 17th-20th February 2017
    • 22nd-25th February 2017
    • 3rd-9th March 2017
    • 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
    • 1st-16th July 2017
    • 19th July-1st August 2017
    • 2nd-15th August 2017
    • 16th-30th August 2017

    Routes affected:
    As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).

    Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.

    Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew

    Background Details from BA:
    Strike 19th July-1st August
    2nd August-16th August

    Background Details from Unite:
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/

    Latest negotiating position:
    Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.

    Key upcoming dates:
    • Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.

    Ballot results for industrial action:
    • First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
    • Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
    • Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:26 am
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    Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
    There are many different crews use by BA, Mixed Fleet (MF) is a LHR based fleet crew, which is the main recruitment route for new cabin crew into the airline at LHR. LGW and LCY have different crews. Some members of MF are unionised, some are not. So if the strikes goes ahead some MF staff will be working, all the other crews will also be working, but many MF will however be on strike, as things stand. You can tell if your flight may be affected by going to the Wiki and seeing the link there to the MF routes. However at this stage, and typically not until a few days before travel, BA won't know or be able to confirm whether your flight will operate. Usually this thread will be updated with more information at that point.
    Thanks, should be an "interesting" vacation!
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:36 am
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    Originally Posted by BA6501
    It's a group of cabin crew hired since 2010 on "new" contracts who operate a selection of shorthaul and longhaul aircraft, and operate to certain destinations listed here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...et-routes.html
    Thanks!
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:59 am
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    A somewhat reassuring message on the BA website (updated a couple of hours ago): "All British Airways customers will be able to fly to their destinations, despite 16 further days of threatened industrial action by Mixed Fleet Unite, which represents one of our five cabin crew fleets." 'Contingency' plans to be published over the next couple of days, which should hopefully provide further clarity.

    https://www.britishairways.com/trave...b?p_faqid=5783
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:21 am
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    Checking my bookings for the period I believe I have only one flight to SIN potentially impacted. Right on the 1st of July. I'll see what happens
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:26 am
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    If it's the BA11 then it shouldn't be - nor would I expect BA15 to be impacted, just too many operational issues down the line to deal with.
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:36 am
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    Looking at the MF route list, I see Copenhagen (which was due to be MF from 01 Jul) has disappeared from the list. Is that correct?
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:47 am
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    As I've got a CPH flight on 8th I'm interested in that one too
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:48 am
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    Well I think it was removed by one of the BA staff who post on FT - so one can only assume it is correct and CPH isn't going to MF on 1 July.
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 11:00 am
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    It was going to MF but EF have managed to keep hold of it.
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 11:07 am
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    It was going to MF but EF have managed to keep hold of it.
    Thanks!
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 11:54 am
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    Can anyone advise if Split is MF please it's quite a new route thanks?
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 2:56 pm
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    It was going to MF but EF have managed to keep hold of it.
    Great - thanks for the update. Glad there's less chance of direct effect from the strike, but shame as I was looking forward to the MF crew.
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 3:09 pm
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    Rather selfish Jordan D.
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 3:13 pm
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    Originally Posted by KARFA
    Is your flight on a MF route though?
    rather a glaring omission on my part - DUB/LHR, so believe it is

    (I'm assuming <1% chance given consolidation options, EI flights etc.)
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    Old Jun 16, 2017, 3:17 pm
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    Don't forget, BA might have been able to minimise the disruption previously due to the fact that nearly all of the previous strikes were in the winter schedule (bar one possibly, depending on when BA go from Winter > Summer schedules.) However with summer in full swing, there will be less crew available, less aircraft around and most of the lease aircraft already booked up.
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