Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Aug 3, 2017, 7:33 am
#3286
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You can't proactively reroute. Also that flight hasn't been affected at all, it is the other BA297 flight to ORD which has been routinely rerouted. I can't imagine you would be affected at all.
Aug 3, 2017, 7:38 am
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Aug 3, 2017, 8:13 am
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Was booked in W on the 296 connecting from STL next week, but the 297/296 rotation has been cancelled 10 days in a row now. Rather than knowingly await the seemingly inevitable bump to a Y middle seat on AA on the day, I called the travel agent today and changed onto an earlier New York connection onto the 114.
Aug 3, 2017, 9:35 am
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LGW-JFK has been cancelled for a prolonged period of time to free up crew, A380 flights often have only circa 10 out of 22 cabin crew showing up to report, a SIN/SYD left the other day with only 8 crew on board and a SCL with only 6 led by an IBM. Yes flights are departing and that's what BA will champion, but things aren't hunky dory.
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Aug 3, 2017, 9:42 am
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Aug 3, 2017, 9:49 am
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Yes it is.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
Aug 3, 2017, 9:51 am
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Aug 3, 2017, 9:52 am
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Yes it is.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
Aug 3, 2017, 9:52 am
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Yes it is.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
SYD-SIN is a 777-300 with 10 doors, requiring 10 crew to operate each one.
Downroute, the minimum crew is reduced to 9, however the passenger limit is then also reduced to 299.
I am curious how it is possible that the flight then left two crew members short.
I dont disagree with you.
Aug 3, 2017, 9:57 am
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