Jan 3, 2015, 4:45 am
Last edit by: TravellerFrequently
2015 POUG rate tracker
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner. You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
- ACE – £119 (May 2015)
- AGP – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) £179 (July 2015)
- AMS - £109 (LHR Dec 2015 - both ways for Jan 2016), £69 for LCY (Jan 2015), €89 to LGW both ways (Jul 2015) £79 from LGW (May 2015), €90 to LHR (May 2015)
- AMS - £79 (Jan 2015) ex LGW - return also offered
- ANE - €79 (Mar 2015) to LCY
- ARN - £105 / LHR-ARN B767 (Mar 2015) £72 LHR-ARN (May 2015)
- ATH - £109 (Oct 2014) / £179 (Jan 15), £160 (Apr 2015), €280 to LHR (May 2015)
- BCN – €139 (Jan 2015) £89 (Feb 2015 LHR-BCN) £115 (Apr 2015 BCN-LHR), £89 (Apr 2015 LGW)
- BGO - £75 and £65 (Jan 2015 and Apr 2015)
- BOD - £104 from HBO (Feb 2015)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £105 (Feb 2015) /£120 (March 2015) /€135 (Jan 2015) / £115 (Jun 2015)
- BSL - CHF120 (Dec 2014) / CHF190 (Sep 2015)
- BUD - £89 also £105 (Dec 2014) and £120 (Jan 2015)
- CDG - €115 (Dec 2014), £75 (Mar 2015) £99 (April 2015), £80 (Jul 2015). £89 (Dec 2015)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014) Note LCY.
- CPH - £129 (Nov 2014) £125 (Jan 2015) 950 DKK (£95 - Jul 2015), £159 (Apr 2015), £120 (May 2015)
- CTA - £119/€144 (Dec 2014 and June 2015)
- DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
- DUB – €119 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £80 and £95 LHR (Jan & Mar 2015) £99 (Nov 2014); £95 LCY (Jan 2015), £80 LCY (Mar 2015), £105 (Apr 2015), €105 (to LHR, June 2015), £115 (LHR, Jun/Jul 2015)
- DUS - €125 (Jan 2015) €79 to LCY (Apr 2015) £69 to LCY (May 2015)
- FCO - £170 (Dec 2014) / €155 LHR & €109 LGW (Mar 2015), £155 (Apr 2015)
- FRA - €145 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £105 (Jan 2015) £109 (Nov 2015)
- GIB - £140 Dec 2014)
- GOT – £90 (Jan 2015) £79 (Nov 2014), SEK 990/GBP 76 (Oct 2015)
- GVA - £79/£89 (Nov 2014) £105 (Jan 2015) £120 (May 2015 from HBO) £105 both ways (05/15)
- HAM - £90 both ways (Jan 2015) £79 both ways (Sep 15 from HBO)
- HEL – €155 back (Dec 2014) £130 (July 2015, HEL-LHR)
- INN – £89/€109 back (Dec 2014)
- IST - £130 both ways (May 2015) £150 (May 2015, IST-LHR)
- JER - £99 (Jan 2015), £79 (Mar 2015), £79 (Oct 2015), £79 (Nove 2015)
- LCA – £210 (Feb2015)
- LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
- LIN – £175 (Jan 2015), £189 (Nov 2015)
- LIS – £80/£119/£145 (Nov 2014 / Dec 2014), £145 (Jul 2015 & Jan 2016)
- LPA - €125 back to LHR (May 2015)
- LUX - £120 offered to LHR (Feb 2015)
- MAD - £110 to LHR (Mar 2015 from HBO), £75 exLHR (June 2015), €89 MAD-LCY-MAD for Oct 2015
- MAH - £69 (Apr 2015). Note LCY.
- MLA - €154 (Jan 2015), €119 (Oct 2015)
- MUC - £105 (May 2015), £109 (Sep 2015 from HBO)
- MXP - £180 (Jan 2015)
- NCE - £140 (Dec 2014), £114 ex-LGW £145 to LHR (Apr 2015 from HBO)
- ORY - £99 (Jan 2015), £69 (Mar 2015) £90 April 2015
- OSL - NOK1200 = £100 (Feb 2015), £120 (May 2015), £91 (Aug 2015), £159 (Jan & Mar 2016 )
- OTP - £185 (Jan 2015)
- PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
- PMI - £69 (Mar 2015), €79 (Mar 2015). Note LCY. PMI-LHR €175 (Mar 2015) / EUR 180 (Apr 2015) / EUR 205 (Oct 2015)
- PRG - £79/£120 (Dec 2014/Jan 2015), £149 (Dec 2015)
- PSA - £165 (Feb 2015), £89 (Oct 2015)
- RTM - £65 (Jan 2015, ex LHR)
- SVG - NOK 720 (Dec 2015), NOK 720 (Aug 2015), £99 each way (Dec 2015)
- SZG - £114 (Dec 2014)
- TIA – £99/€119 (Dec 2014) €159 (Mar 2015)
- TXL – £115 (Dec 2015) / €150 (Jan 2015) / £120 (Feb/Mar 2015) / €125 (Apr 2015) / £119 July 2015
- UIP - £69 (Mar 2015). Note LCY.
- VCE - £145 (Jan 2015)
- VIE – £149 (Aug '15) £135 (July '15) £145 (Jan '15) £99 and £129 (Nov 14)
- VRN - £89 / €109 (Dec 2014)
- WAW - £139 for LHR-WAW-LHR Oct 2015, 475 PLN (£79) for WAW-LHR (Jan 2016)
- ZAG - £89 for ZAG-LHR Aug 2015, €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
- ZRH – £87 / CHF135 (Dec 14) LCY flights £69 (Nov 2014), £105 (LHR, Jul 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £147 (Jan and Apr 2015)
- IAD – WTP $288 (Jan 2015)
- LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015)
- LAX - CW £540 (Feb 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- YUL – CW £405 (Jan 2015 - Post #95)
- YYZ - CW GBP 350 (Jun 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to South America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOM –WTP £168 (Dec 2015)
- PVG – CW £440 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - WTP £207 (Jan 2015)
- NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
- BKK - WTP £229 (Aug 2016)
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- DXB – WTP £150 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Feb 2015)
- TLV - WTP £153 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
- DME - WTP £145 (Nov 2015)
- DXB – CW £499 (Jan 2015)
- DXB – CW £299 (Nov 2015)
- GIG – F £447 (Jan 2015)
- HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - CW £540 (Mar 2015)
- HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April)
- IAD - WTP £185 (Apr 2015)
- JFK – WTP £168 (Jan 2015)
- JFK – F £508 (Dec 2015)
- MCO - WTP £170 (Sep 2015)
- MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015)
- ORD - CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015) increased to GBP 525 in 4 hours.
- PEK - CW GBP 549 (Aug 2015)
- SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
- SIN – CW £549 (Mar 2015)
- SIN – WTP £198 (Jun 2015)
- SYD – CW £500 (Jan 2015)
- YYZ - CW GBP 450 (Jun 2015)
- YYZ – CW C$723 (Nov 2015)
- YYZ - WTP GBP 189 (Jun 2015)
POUG terms and conditions can be found by clicking here.
Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2015 thread
Mar 12, 2015, 9:18 pm
#331
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Thanks for the feedback!
Mar 13, 2015, 2:36 am
#332
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Offered £549 for WTP-CW on SIN-LHR (8th April 2015) in MMB.
Mar 13, 2015, 4:28 am
#333
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Mar 13, 2015, 5:30 am
#334
Join Date: May 2014
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Am being offered 159 € Malaga to Gatwick. With the old 737s I'd consider paying €50 for an upgrade, but with the new CE cabin I'd pay about €25 so I can't see me ever going for POUG. I've Silver now so get lounge access. If I wasn't Silver I'd add €10 to those prices above
Mar 13, 2015, 6:17 am
#335
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MUC offer of 110 GBP. That is almost exactly what the fare difference was at booking. I passed.
On the return, I took advantage of a fare difference of less than 70 GBP to confirm CE.
On the return, I took advantage of a fare difference of less than 70 GBP to confirm CE.
Mar 13, 2015, 3:26 pm
#336
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CDG-LHR £75 offered at OLCI on a corporate TA HBO fare. (I now realise I have previously posted this one...)
Last edited by Genius1; Mar 13, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Mar 13, 2015, 3:51 pm
#337
Join Date: Aug 2012
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DEL-LHR for 500 GBP at check-in on a regular I fare in early February '15.
oops - this probably belongs in an AUP thread if there is one
oops - this probably belongs in an AUP thread if there is one
Last edited by bermudatoad; Mar 13, 2015 at 3:55 pm Reason: wrong thread!
Mar 13, 2015, 4:30 pm
#338
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Hi
I booked LAX-LHR-YVR in CW+ yesterday travelling late September back October 12. Less than 12 hours later I noticed an upgrade offer in my booking. It appears to be offering it for both legs. I'm afraid to go in and look at the price thinking that if I back out it won't be there at another time. Am I being paranoid?
From reading through this post I gather that the offer can come and go over time and the price can go up and down. Does it tend to be lowest at check-in? We're travelling outbound on my birthday so it would be a nice treat......depending on the price.
I got upgraded on CX from PE to Biz recently but who knows if that luck will repeat itself on BA!
I'm AA platinum (OW Sapphire). Really excited to be trying the A380!
I booked LAX-LHR-YVR in CW+ yesterday travelling late September back October 12. Less than 12 hours later I noticed an upgrade offer in my booking. It appears to be offering it for both legs. I'm afraid to go in and look at the price thinking that if I back out it won't be there at another time. Am I being paranoid?
From reading through this post I gather that the offer can come and go over time and the price can go up and down. Does it tend to be lowest at check-in? We're travelling outbound on my birthday so it would be a nice treat......depending on the price.
I got upgraded on CX from PE to Biz recently but who knows if that luck will repeat itself on BA!
I'm AA platinum (OW Sapphire). Really excited to be trying the A380!
Mar 15, 2015, 9:54 am
#339
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London, Sth Africa or LAS
Programs: VS Silver, BA Blue - finally; but hotels.com Gold :)
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Some recent data-points.
LHR-VIE & VIE-LHR, POUGs at £130 each-way at t-24hrs. I declined.
next trip LHR & VIE-LHR no offer. 4 rows CE o/b, 3 rows I/b.
LHR-CPH & CPH-LHR. £110 each-way. I declined.
I'm currently projecting being 100-200tps under a 'bauble' threshold at my year-end, so the extra tps on offer do have some kind of value ... but not at those prices.
LHR-VIE & VIE-LHR, POUGs at £130 each-way at t-24hrs. I declined.
next trip LHR & VIE-LHR no offer. 4 rows CE o/b, 3 rows I/b.
LHR-CPH & CPH-LHR. £110 each-way. I declined.
I'm currently projecting being 100-200tps under a 'bauble' threshold at my year-end, so the extra tps on offer do have some kind of value ... but not at those prices.
Mar 15, 2015, 10:00 am
#340
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This sounds to me to be a simple paid upgrade, rather than the POUG. POUG are offered via the scrolling banner/BA information above your details on MMB. This should clearly state the cost of the upgrade being offered 'on a limited time basis'. Given that this was advertised after only 12 hours, PUG are only available after 48 hours. I assume that this is to stop people booking cheap tickets then cancelling within 24 hours if a POUG has not been offered, as a means of trying to get CE/WTP etc cheaper than the price being offered at time of booking.
Mar 15, 2015, 10:49 am
#341
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Some recent data-points.
LHR-VIE & VIE-LHR, POUGs at £130 each-way at t-24hrs. I declined.
next trip LHR & VIE-LHR no offer. 4 rows CE o/b, 3 rows I/b.
LHR-CPH & CPH-LHR. £110 each-way. I declined.
I'm currently projecting being 100-200tps under a 'bauble' threshold at my year-end, so the extra tps on offer do have some kind of value ... but not at those prices.
LHR-VIE & VIE-LHR, POUGs at £130 each-way at t-24hrs. I declined.
next trip LHR & VIE-LHR no offer. 4 rows CE o/b, 3 rows I/b.
LHR-CPH & CPH-LHR. £110 each-way. I declined.
I'm currently projecting being 100-200tps under a 'bauble' threshold at my year-end, so the extra tps on offer do have some kind of value ... but not at those prices.
Places like Geneva and Dublin could be more cost effective.
Your better bet is to look at POUGs from LCY, which still seem to be around £69 from LCY, and a Euro depreciated €79 (£56) back to LCY if bought as singles.
I've been booking some PMI tickets recently, which is served by both LHR and LCY. The PMI to LCY POUG is coming up at €79, PMI to LHR POUG is at €175! That said, PMI to LHR in ET HBO was a smashing price, €54 (£38).
Mar 15, 2015, 11:38 am
#342
Join Date: Jan 2009
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@ cws. Indeed 
, but 'tis where work send me.
I tend to pick up some personal CE fares to DUB.
The bit I haven't adjusted to, and very grateful for the post, is the AMS-LCY angle. For various reasons my AMS-LGW could be replaced by AMS-LCY. The (small) chance of the occasional POUG in the 'value' window would add to benefits such as quicker bag-claim at LCY over LGW and (mostly) quicker passport control on a Thu or Fri night.
I've no doubt £125rtn to VIE exists, but in the real-world of booking Sunday LHR departures (after 8am!) I rarely beat £195rtn even 4 months out and in a "sale".
, but 'tis where work send me.I tend to pick up some personal CE fares to DUB.
The bit I haven't adjusted to, and very grateful for the post, is the AMS-LCY angle. For various reasons my AMS-LGW could be replaced by AMS-LCY. The (small) chance of the occasional POUG in the 'value' window would add to benefits such as quicker bag-claim at LCY over LGW and (mostly) quicker passport control on a Thu or Fri night.
I've no doubt £125rtn to VIE exists, but in the real-world of booking Sunday LHR departures (after 8am!) I rarely beat £195rtn even 4 months out and in a "sale".
Mar 15, 2015, 11:57 am
#343
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This sounds to me to be a simple paid upgrade, rather than the POUG. POUG are offered via the scrolling banner/BA information above your details on MMB. This should clearly state the cost of the upgrade being offered 'on a limited time basis'. Given that this was advertised after only 12 hours, PUG are only available after 48 hours. I assume that this is to stop people booking cheap tickets then cancelling within 24 hours if a POUG has not been offered, as a means of trying to get CE/WTP etc cheaper than the price being offered at time of booking.
Mar 16, 2015, 6:55 am
#344
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Ancaster, ON, Canada
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
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Just for the wiki (can't edit yet) :
I was offered LHR-YYC, WT->WTP for £189 both ways at t-1 week.
I was offered LHR-YYC, WT->WTP for £189 both ways at t-1 week.
Mar 18, 2015, 7:36 am
#345
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: BA Gold
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Flying LHR-SFO and then BOS-LHR end August in WT. Looked into how much it would cost to upgrade the outbound to WTP (it's an 11 hour flight) and got the following message:
We are very sorry that we cannot process this request on ba.com because the journey includes a surface sector. Please call your local British Airways office to change this booking
Does this mean that POUGs won't be shown or available for this booking? Or are they done on a flight by flight basis, which means it might be available closer to the time?
Hoping someone knows! Not particularly looking forward to 11 hours in WT...
We are very sorry that we cannot process this request on ba.com because the journey includes a surface sector. Please call your local British Airways office to change this booking
Does this mean that POUGs won't be shown or available for this booking? Or are they done on a flight by flight basis, which means it might be available closer to the time?
Hoping someone knows! Not particularly looking forward to 11 hours in WT...