m3red

Is eating it classed as intention to permanently deprive?

Tobias-UK

I think the comment was intended as a jest, of course it is illegal to consume food in a supermarket without paying.

T8191

It could be returned later, albeit in a modified form

bioblot

The crime is the contravention of Railway By-law 19: "Except with permission from an authorised person, no person shall remain in any seat, berth or any part of a train where a notice indicates that it is reserved for a specified ticket holder or holders of tickets of specific class, except the holder of a valid ticket entitling him to be in that particular place" The penalty is a fine and removal from the railway.

Getting back on topic, there is of course no similar criminal law for such a thing occurring in the air, just the requirement to obey the instructions of cabin crew in certain circumstances.

TabTraveller

Apologies to the poster if it was in jest but most people will give a if that's their intention. It wasn't clear that this comment was in jest. Quite a few people in my local supermarket seem to think it is fine to wander around trying the produce at any rate!

Calchas

My comment of disbelief was aimed at the poster who seemed to suggest this activity was at all acceptable.

bioblot, if the cabin crew didn't realize our "chancer" had not paid for a J ticket and for that reason permitted him to continue to sit in the J seat, and offered him a J experience (no jokes please) would that not be obtaining services by deception? (With apologies to TabTraveller.)

tony flynn

Snigger

m3red

I flew to hkg in j the other day (not on ba) and when we landed (I was in 9k) everyone was waiting for the f pax to leave and this guy was like excuse me can I get past. Of course I just let him go knowing he wasn't going anywhere!

Anyway the airhostess couldn't locate my jacket so I had to wait until nearly the whole j cabin had gone.

So I go about my business get an airport express ticket and as I'm boarding the train there is mr can I get past you!

What a tool!

cazoz

Glad I wasn't the only one.

HMO

^^^

Banana4321

How many people have Waitrose prosecuted for eating food in their supermarkets? Can you point me at the case law or law reports please?

Wozza2404

Many moons ago I worked in the security office for a large supermarket. No-one eating a banana or a handful of grapes was ever arrested for theft-by-consumption. There was a woman, however, who would come in every lunch time and stand looking at the magazines/TVs/Clothes whilst eating a sandwich she'd picked up from the entrance display. She'd then walk out 10 minutes later and put the empty wrapper in the bin. After about a week of this she was taken to one side and warned that this was theft and she'd be detained if she continued.

Monday lunchtime, she's in again. This time she was detained and the police were called. No charges were ever filed, though. She was just banned from the store.

Ultimately (IME), stores aren't interested in kids eating the Pik N Mix or someone eating a bag if crisps; the only charges that were filed were against those who put a TV in their trolley and walked out. Or 20 bottles of whiskey. Or 40 legs of lamb.

TabTraveller

Prosecution vs legality. Quite a simple distinction.

CCayley

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Frankly, if anyone really thinks there is nothing wrong with going into a shop, taking an item from the shelves, consuming it, and then leaving without paying for it, the fact that they are clearly not possessed of any understanding of the law is the least of their character defects. They would possess a somewhat defective moral compass, IMHO, which is much more important.

JessicaTam

Which would fit rather nicely with the title of this thread.