Sep 6, 2013, 1:14 pm
Last edit by: Globaliser
The latest version (2010) of the First cabin (termed "Prime" internally by British Airways, or "New First") is available on all 4-class 777s and all 747s.
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
Tracking NF [New First]
Oct 27, 2014, 9:35 am
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Oct 28, 2014, 10:15 am
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So LHR-PHX was announced as a route not selling F, moving to 3 class route at least temporariy along with 3 other routes. The announcement made back in June was effective October 26th with the start of the W14 schedule. Today the 28th, G-CIVN is flying the PHX, BA289 route. So you have a aircraft with NF but only getting Club World Service. And is the NF cabin empty or first come first serve when booking a ticket and selecting a seat. While I understand food/service would be the same, those in the F cabin clearly have a nicer/quieter ride than those downstairs in say row 17 in the middle.
Oct 28, 2014, 2:55 pm
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The First cabin is available for Emerald/Sapphire/Ruby passengers with a Club World ticket within their standard window of seat selection.
Dec 11, 2014, 2:18 pm
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Dec 26, 2014, 10:09 am
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There will be a return to First being offered on the LHR-PHX route beginning Winter 2015, October 25th. While I have not seen any official announcements, I was given the information from You First booking a spring trip in F from LAX. I then went to BA.com to book a F seat from PHX starting October 25th and indeed F is being offered. Still shows aircraft as744, so between now and 9 months from now there must be further adjustments to BA's fleet to reinstate F on this route.^
Dec 26, 2014, 6:07 pm
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NF to be reinstated on routes which lost it in 2014
There will be a return to First being offered on the LHR-PHX route beginning Winter 2015, October 25th. While I have not seen any official announcements, I was given the information from You First booking a spring trip in F from LAX. I then went to BA.com to book a F seat from PHX starting October 25th and indeed F is being offered. Still shows aircraft as744, so between now and 9 months from now there must be further adjustments to BA's fleet to reinstate F on this route.^
All the routes which lost F will have it reinstated by Oct. 25. YVR is first, with the F cabin reinstated by the end of March.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....47s-new-first/
Dec 26, 2014, 11:28 pm
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That’s right
LHR-YVR will return as a four class operation from March 2015 when the service switches to the Summer schedule. Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Cape Town will follow in October 2015 (W15).
There are five 747s in service fitted with old First. Of those two will be refitted with NF; the other three will be retired from service.
See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23975043-post923.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...new-first.html
LHR-YVR will return as a four class operation from March 2015 when the service switches to the Summer schedule. Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Cape Town will follow in October 2015 (W15).
There are five 747s in service fitted with old First. Of those two will be refitted with NF; the other three will be retired from service.
See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23975043-post923.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...new-first.html
Jan 1, 2015, 6:36 pm
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Am I right in thinking the only aircraft with OF are the six as follows? With some going to be refitted, which ones will be withdrawn? Apart from these, all other 744's have NF. I can't see why BA would withdraw a NF 747 over an OF one unless it was damaged after driving into a building or something.
G-BNLF
G-BNLV
G-BNLW
G-BNLX
G-BNLY
G-BNLZ
G-BNLF
G-BNLV
G-BNLW
G-BNLX
G-BNLY
G-BNLZ
Jan 2, 2015, 4:18 am
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Am I right in thinking the only aircraft with OF are the six as follows? With some going to be refitted, which ones will be withdrawn? Apart from these, all other 744's have NF. I can't see why BA would withdraw a NF 747 over an OF one unless it was damaged after driving into a building or something.
http://ftdashboard.net/fleet/midjhij.htm
This post has details of upcoming retirements and conversations to NF: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23975043-post923.html
Aircraft are retired based on flying hours and condition/maintenance requirements, not whether the aircraft has NF or not. Some aircraft with NF are being retired, and the cabins will be fitted to any OF aircraft remaining in the fleet.