Sep 6, 2013, 1:14 pm
Last edit by: Globaliser
The latest version (2010) of the First cabin (termed "Prime" internally by British Airways, or "New First") is available on all 4-class 777s and all 747s.
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
Tracking NF [New First]
Feb 20, 2015, 1:15 am
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I stand corrected. First LF was not at Cardif as I mentioned but at LHR Maintenance, I mis-read BA Source.
Second, LF is in route to Phx as I post this, running two hours late but heading to PHX nonetheless.
However, BA source still has not been updated and reporting it leaving LHR maintenance. FT Dashboard also has not been updated since 10th of Feb so it also shows it out of service. Those were my two sources for believing it was still out. mea culpa
Second, LF is in route to Phx as I post this, running two hours late but heading to PHX nonetheless.
However, BA source still has not been updated and reporting it leaving LHR maintenance. FT Dashboard also has not been updated since 10th of Feb so it also shows it out of service. Those were my two sources for believing it was still out. mea culpa
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/ai...h-airways-baw/ for the aircraft
for more accurate info! You're right LF is into a 2h delay.
Feb 20, 2015, 5:01 am
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I don't think you can expect the news items necessarily to include every single aircraft movement into and out of maintenance.
Mar 4, 2015, 3:52 pm
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For the BA205 LHR-MIA tomorrow (Thursday 5th), it was due to be a 777. Then got switched to a hi-J 747, and now switched to a mid-J 747. Is anyone able to check and confirm that we are still getting NF and we haven't been stitched up with OF?
Thanks
Thanks
Mar 6, 2015, 12:15 pm
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If you are booked in First, it will be NF. OF is no longer sold as First, and the five aircraft with OF cabins are assigned to 3-class routes, with the OF cabin sold as Club World.
Mar 6, 2015, 1:30 pm
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OF - anger induction, etc
Mar 6, 2015, 4:21 pm
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Unless of course they are very unlucky and one of the OF aircraft is used - which, sadly, does still happen from time to time - including to MIA see:
OF - anger induction, etc
OF - anger induction, etc
OF.
The same aircraft which had caused that fit of apoplexy on its immediately preceding sector to LHR.
Mar 8, 2015, 9:50 am
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British Airways Boeing 747-436 G-BNLY, which has been under maintenance at Cardiff-Wales since 2nd February, positioned Cardiff-Wales – London Heathrow this afternoon as BA9172. The aircraft has been fitted with New First.
FT Dashboard however still does not show BNLY in blue indicating NF. If it has been converted would there only be 4 744's with OF?
Mar 8, 2015, 10:09 am
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The wiki to this thread and the retirements tracker (amongst other places) should show the correct number and identities of the OF aircraft. If they don't, please let me know.
Mar 8, 2015, 3:29 pm
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Mar 29, 2015, 4:36 am
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I wonder whether someone can help with what is a rather trivial question.
Mrs 66 will be returning from YVR to LHR in a couple of weeks in F.
This route was one of those selected some time ago to move to three class, with the F cabin being sold as J overflow.
Then it moved back to four class with F as F. Mrs 66 is ticketed as F and seated in the F cabin, rather than ticketed as J.
This route seems to be plied by mid-J 744s mostly fitted with OF. The link in the tracking NF thread shows it operating at 7-13% NF.
There would seem to be a high chance therefore that she will be in an OF plane; and so finally the question - does BA still offer compensation (in the form of Avios or something else) for this, or is it a case of "lump it"? If the former, any ideas whether it is (or should be) offered proactively, and what the going rate is?
TIA.
Mrs 66 will be returning from YVR to LHR in a couple of weeks in F.
This route was one of those selected some time ago to move to three class, with the F cabin being sold as J overflow.
Then it moved back to four class with F as F. Mrs 66 is ticketed as F and seated in the F cabin, rather than ticketed as J.
This route seems to be plied by mid-J 744s mostly fitted with OF. The link in the tracking NF thread shows it operating at 7-13% NF.
There would seem to be a high chance therefore that she will be in an OF plane; and so finally the question - does BA still offer compensation (in the form of Avios or something else) for this, or is it a case of "lump it"? If the former, any ideas whether it is (or should be) offered proactively, and what the going rate is?
TIA.
Mar 29, 2015, 4:38 am
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This route was one of those selected some time ago to move to three class, with the F cabin being sold as J overflow.
Then it moved back to four class with F as F. Mrs 66 is ticketed as F and seated in the F cabin, rather than ticketed as J.
This route seems to be plied by mid-J 744s mostly fitted with OF. The link in the tracking NF thread shows it operating at 7-13% NF.
Then it moved back to four class with F as F. Mrs 66 is ticketed as F and seated in the F cabin, rather than ticketed as J.
This route seems to be plied by mid-J 744s mostly fitted with OF. The link in the tracking NF thread shows it operating at 7-13% NF.
YVR has been 3-class until today. It's only moved back to being 4-class with effect from today's flight. So the percentage of NF being flown on this route on any day up to yesterday will be pretty meaningless. What will count is what equipment is used starting from today.
Mar 29, 2015, 4:42 am
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Past performance is no guarantee of future results, or whatever the catchphrase is.
YVR has been 3-class until today. It's only moved back to being 4-class with effect from today's flight. So the percentage of NF being flown on this route on any day up to yesterday will be pretty meaningless. What will count is what equipment is used starting from today.
YVR has been 3-class until today. It's only moved back to being 4-class with effect from today's flight. So the percentage of NF being flown on this route on any day up to yesterday will be pretty meaningless. What will count is what equipment is used starting from today.
I shall keep my beady eye on the stats going forward. Thanks.
Mar 29, 2015, 4:46 am
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Good luck!
It will be interesting to see how the last few months of OF are managed. "OF sold as J" clearly hasn't been a huge success; it looks like the operational constraints of a small sub-fleet have done for that idea. But BA also has capacity problems which may make it difficult to ditch the OF aircraft any faster than originally planned.
It will be interesting to see how the last few months of OF are managed. "OF sold as J" clearly hasn't been a huge success; it looks like the operational constraints of a small sub-fleet have done for that idea. But BA also has capacity problems which may make it difficult to ditch the OF aircraft any faster than originally planned.
