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Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
Tried Bob1008's L093590 in Skagway, Alaska, and it worked fine, reducing the rate from $67 to $53.
But when I tried it on a weekend day in LA, it quoted something in the mid-$20's (smallest car), but when entering no AWD at all, I came up with $14.99, which seems to be the best rate on 7/23 among any major agency and probably the lowest I've ever paid for a rental day. |
Originally Posted by norodnik
Where does it say about entitlement and proof or otherwise?
Put down your country of residence as Estonia for an even bigger discount. ^ |
L093590 Revisited
Originally Posted by bob1008
You may have the the "corporate rate" checked. Always select " check for lowest rate" , even when using an AWD #. Never select "corporate rate" if you want the lowest price.
Here's what happens: Indeed, without checking "corporate", but by adding the AWD, I now get a rate quote for LAX 7/23, smallest car, 1 day of $13.49. But then they add surcharges and tax of $3.52 and $1.40, respectively, for a total of $18.41. But if I use no AWD, the rate is $14.99, with tax of $1.24, and NO SURCHARGE, for a total of $16.23. Apparently the surcharges apply only in certain cases. Isn't this a little strange? |
Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
Thanks, Bob1008.
Here's what happens: Indeed, without checking "corporate", but by adding the AWD, I now get a rate quote for LAX 7/23, smallest car, 1 day of $13.49. But then they add surcharges and tax of $3.52 and $1.40, respectively, for a total of $18.41. But if I use no AWD, the rate is $14.99, with tax of $1.24, and NO SURCHARGE, for a total of $16.23. Apparently the surcharges apply only in certain cases. Isn't this a little strange? |
Rental In Malaysia
Hi!
Will be heading down to Malaysia in June. I have been checking out some of the rates and they seem to be more expensive than I would expect them to be. Tried using some of the AWD's, but nothing seem to have any big effect than without.. anyone out there with some good tips for getting better rates? Thanks. :) |
Originally Posted by nldogbert
anyone out there with some good tips for getting better rates?
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Originally Posted by Ex Amex Card
Change your country of residence when booking online. Eastern Europe, USA, Australia or Malaysia are worth trying.
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Originally Posted by sargento
oooppssss.
forgot a number.. it should be D496201 I've tried it in the system and it gives a slightly better price than the D005297 code. let me know if it works for France. |
I did not see this AWD posted.
AOPA Discount Code : AWD A451300 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association |
the extra discount coupon is gone. but the code D496201 still works for anyone..
Originally Posted by rdmelton
wow! I got a really great price using this code. (far better than any other code, and I tried a bunch of them) It was ~50% off avis.com's full price for a week in Maui. Did you say that it came from a magazine? What magazine, and do you know if you have to show the coupon at the counter? Does it say if there are any restrictions on it?
conditions for extra's: extra $20 - must be 5 nights, including a sat night weekend day off - must be a min. of 3 nights - starting Thursday and must be returned by Monday @ midnight. ADVANCE reservation (with code) must be made. No one-way rentals Valid only in US & Canada (excl. NY Metro area) If it helps you PM your info.. otherwise.. the first person who PM their info on this can get it .. cheers, |
Free Day Coupon (from Avis e-mail):
This offer entitles the customer to one day's time and mileage charges free on an Intermediate (Group C) through a Full Size four-door (Group E) car with a minimum 3-day rental. Please use coupon number TUDA010 to take advantage of this offer. Taxes, concession recovery fees, customer facility charges ($10/contract in CA) $10/contract.), optional items charges and other surcharges may apply and are extra. Offer valid at participating Avis locations in the contiguous U.S. (excluding the NY Metro area) and Canada. Cars are subject to availability at time of rental. Offer subject to vehicle availability at the time of rental, and may not be available on some rates and at some times. An advance reservation is required. May not be used in conjunction with any other coupon, promotion or offer. One per rental, and cannot be used for one-way rentals. Certificates cannot be applied to completed rentals. Offer may not be available during holiday and other blackout periods. Renter must meet Avis age, driver and credit requirements. Minimum age is 25, but may vary by location. Rental must begin by May 24, 2005. |
Originally Posted by bhatnasx
Free Day Coupon (from Avis e-mail):
This offer entitles the customer to one day's time and mileage charges free on an Intermediate (Group C) through a Full Size four-door (Group E) car with a minimum 3-day rental. Please use coupon number TUDA010 to take advantage of this offer. Taxes, concession recovery fees, customer facility charges ($10/contract in CA) $10/contract.), optional items charges and other surcharges may apply and are extra. Offer valid at participating Avis locations in the contiguous U.S. (excluding the NY Metro area) and Canada. Cars are subject to availability at time of rental. Offer subject to vehicle availability at the time of rental, and may not be available on some rates and at some times. An advance reservation is required. May not be used in conjunction with any other coupon, promotion or offer. One per rental, and cannot be used for one-way rentals. Certificates cannot be applied to completed rentals. Offer may not be available during holiday and other blackout periods. Renter must meet Avis age, driver and credit requirements. Minimum age is 25, but may vary by location. Rental must begin by May 24, 2005. cheers, |
1) RE: L093590 / 2) One Way Rentals
1) RE: L093590
So, I have discovered that this code does not include miles for one-way rentals, but does include miles for 'normal' rentals, thus the confusion. HTH someone else out there. 2) One Way Rentals Anyone have a great code for one-way rentals (normally traveling from ORD or DTW)? It seems the best I have found is -10% using the US Air AWD. |
Originally Posted by bob1008
I may be wrong on this one....but I've never seen an airport rental without the airport surcharges.
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Originally Posted by SoCalPLT
LAX does not charge a surcharge. One of the only US airport locations that doesn't charge some sort of extra fee.
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AWD Code for Minivan in Vancouver
Any AWD code can get good rate in Vancouver for a minivan?
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premium car discounts
i am looking for a car with XM. the best i can seem to come up with is an upgrade but i can beat the price by a ton elsewhere. anyone have any ideas? rental is next month (weekend at mci). thanks
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D005291
I used this one in Slovenia last week and got a 40% discount. Renter just remarked that my FFP gave me a very good discount!
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French rental code
Originally Posted by PappaG
I used this one in Slovenia last week and got a 40% discount. Renter just remarked that my FFP gave me a very good discount!
Would this code work for that? Thanks in advance. |
I don't have a coupon for this. Was told it was an AA meeting code. I won't be using this on my rental in Switzerland, until August, but I don't expect to have any problems. Glad to hear that PappaG had no problems with this code ^
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Consequences if car is damaged or an accident occurs.
Hi all.
Does anybody know what the consequences are if the rented car is damaged or an accident occurs and an AWD code published here has been used? (That is an AWD that the user cannot justify to have). Can the rental company disclaim themselves from any responsability to the damage occured? Regards |
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Originally Posted by Krissi
Hi all.
Does anybody know what the consequences are if the rented car is damaged or an accident occurs and an AWD code published here has been used? (That is an AWD that the user cannot justify to have). Can the rental company disclaim themselves from any responsability to the damage occured? Regards |
AWD for London and Dubai
Can anyone give a good code for Dubai and London. Any rental company not just AVIS
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Re: Consequences if car is damaged or an accident occurs.
Originally Posted by Krissi
Hi all.
Does anybody know what the consequences are if the rented car is damaged or an accident occurs and an AWD code published here has been used? (That is an AWD that the user cannot justify to have). Can the rental company disclaim themselves from any responsability to the damage occured?
Originally Posted by ezmonee
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Does anybody know where it is possible to read more about this? Is the issue addressed in anyway in the “Terms and Conditions” of Avis? Thank you, Krissi |
Quite simply, the rental agreement (herewith "RA") is a contract between you and Cendant CRG, DBA as "Avis rent a car". Based on the information you provided, including the AWD, your rate and benefits were generated. If you provided false information within the RA, then you are by law in default contractually to the terms of the contract.
from the MRA (for perferred), which language is similar for the regular RA. (Whether or not I accept LDW, or if LDW is not permitted, I am responsible for the Loss if I or any additional driver authorized or not (1) abuse the car or violate prohibited use or operation; (2) drive recklessly or while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance; (3) fail to promptly report an accident to the police and Avis; (4) fail to complete an accident report; (5) obtained the car through fraud or misrepresentation; (6) use the car for an illegal purpose; (7) operate the vehicle off paved roads; and (8) leave the car and fail to remove the keys or close and lock all doors, close all windows and the trunk and the car is stolen or vandalized. If my responsibility for loss or damage is covered by my own insurance or my charge card issuer, I will identify my insurer and policy number or card issuer and its insurer; I authorize you to collect the Loss directly from the insurer. I authorize you to collect the Loss from a third party responsible for the damage. You will refund any sum you collect above the Loss. as "small" as it is, if you use an AWD for an association that you have no real affilation with, you "obtained the car [and its rates/coverages] through fraud or misrepresentation" |
Originally Posted by ezmonee
Quite simply, the rental agreement (herewith "RA") is a contract between you and Cendant CRG, DBA as "Avis rent a car". Based on the information you provided, including the AWD, your rate and benefits were generated. If you provided false information within the RA, then you are by law in default contractually to the terms of the contract.
from the MRA (for perferred), which language is similar for the regular RA. (Whether or not I accept LDW, or if LDW is not permitted, I am responsible for the Loss if I or any additional driver authorized or not (1) abuse the car or violate prohibited use or operation; (2) drive recklessly or while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance; (3) fail to promptly report an accident to the police and Avis; (4) fail to complete an accident report; (5) obtained the car through fraud or misrepresentation; (6) use the car for an illegal purpose; (7) operate the vehicle off paved roads; and (8) leave the car and fail to remove the keys or close and lock all doors, close all windows and the trunk and the car is stolen or vandalized. If my responsibility for loss or damage is covered by my own insurance or my charge card issuer, I will identify my insurer and policy number or card issuer and its insurer; I authorize you to collect the Loss directly from the insurer. I authorize you to collect the Loss from a third party responsible for the damage. You will refund any sum you collect above the Loss. as "small" as it is, if you use an AWD for an association that you have no real affilation with, you "obtained the car [and its rates/coverages] through fraud or misrepresentation" Sounds good, except ordinary persons cannot reasonably be held to know what's in the fine print. The minor transgression likely would be offset by the carrier not doing due diligence to verify that the customer is eligible for a discount. If this is really important to the carrier, they need to be more proactive, such as reading the contract terms to the customer before the customer signs. |
Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
Sounds good, except ordinary persons cannot reasonably be held to know what's in the fine print. The minor transgression likely would be offset by the carrier not doing due diligence to verify that the customer is eligible for a discount. If this is really important to the carrier, they need to be more proactive, such as reading the contract terms to the customer before the customer signs.
therein lies the problem. Its not Avis that is responsible for the LDW portion of the claims, esp one that is part of a group. 1> Group negotiates and agrees to fund/create a LDW and discount code with Avis. Avis, is only a booking agent for the policy, not the guarantor, nor the insurance grantor. These policies are 3-5k for LDW anyway, so someone would likely incurr 10k in legal fees or more chasing down only 3-5k. 2> In order to get an AWD number with a discount, the company/association signs a letter absovling avis rent a car from the litigation of such claims, listing avis as a reseller of services only. So it would be the renters duty to duke it out with the insurance company. If you USED to be part of a specific group or company, then you could easily get away with it. "no one told me to stop using it." If you were never part of the specific group or company, then the insurance underwriter could easily, and legally, deny you. Then the burden of proof would be on you to prove that either avis, the group, or the guarantor did not properly inform you of the rental car rules and regulations. 3> reasonable or not, you are provided the contract information at the time of rental, and you can choose to not read it, or read it. Caveat Emptor. Many millions of dollars and stolen identities, emails, and "sold goods" have been done in the fine print of contracts. Its your responsiblity to know what you are signing. A correlative "small print" issue, It states on every contract "no off paved road driving." Yet they rent 4wd vehicles and jeeps. But if you vehicle was damaged going off road, the LDW would not cover. I routinely see this clause invoked to deny ldw benefits. The use of a AWD via "fraud or misrepresentation" would be no different. |
Originally Posted by bob1008
I'm sure it's only a matter of time.... Kind of interesting though, why LAX have held out so long from the "surcharge whack".
Some airports have these horrible communal locations that are miles away but again it is controlled by the airport authority. ABQ comes to mind. |
I had an AWD automatically entered when I made my latest reservation. A460200. It gave a better than usual weekday at DTW. I tested the regular rates and they were cheaper than usual, albeit higher than this rate.
The only difference that I can think of is that I entered US Air as my arriving carrier, but I doubt that it is clever enough to then generate a US Air related discount. A long time ago I had the National Motorists Association in my profile and it started with A but I haven't kept track of that number. Could it have been cheaper because I returned on Friday evening? It was only $44 after all the taxes and fees. |
Originally Posted by gnaget
I had an AWD automatically entered when I made my latest reservation. A460200. It gave a better than usual weekday at DTW. I tested the regular rates and they were cheaper than usual, albeit higher than this rate.
The only difference that I can think of is that I entered US Air as my arriving carrier, but I doubt that it is clever enough to then generate a US Air related discount. A long time ago I had the National Motorists Association in my profile and it started with A but I haven't kept track of that number. Could it have been cheaper because I returned on Friday evening? It was only $44 after all the taxes and fees. the military daily rate is one of the best out there, but it is offset by the GARS fee of 5.00 per day (howthe military pays for its LDW). which often makes it more expensive than the daily rate. when rate shopping, you will see the daily rate and freak out...but after you get to the final bottom line, it will be more expensive than the everyday liesure rate. When looking at awd discounts, one cannot look at the per day cost alone. Some actually CAN waive the concession recovery fee, some can waive certain dependent taxes that are incurred on a daily basis (perfect example is the employee code a153700-dont use it, it wont work, trust me.) |
Originally Posted by max9238
Can anyone give a good code for Dubai and London. Any rental company not just AVIS
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Country of Residence?
Hi,
Just wondering about something with these Avis codes, it seems the rates change somewhat with the same AWD depending on the country of residence I choose. I see some posts here about using Estonia, etc. Are there any problems with doing this? The basic rate between my real residence (USA) and for example Poland is not much, but when I choose Poland I see LDW and theft protetection included, which makes it much cheaper (if I was to get those coverages to begin with). Is it worth doing or can I have problems at the desk? |
Originally Posted by v1rok
Bump for best AWD and/or coupon code for London. Anybody?
It was GBP 100 at Aviss for a compact car for three days incl tax and fees with this code. (I get always get upgraded generously by Avis in the UK as Pref Select so just pick the cheapest.) I noticed that taxes and fees were about GBP 10 higher for Avis. Maybe National is more "off" airport than Avis. I know that National at CPH doesn't have a desk at the airport so they don't have to pay fees to CPH. But you have to give them the flight number so that they can meet you. The woman parked illegally outside as well..... it's quite a shady operation at CPH. |
Unpaved Roads
[QUOTE: A correlative "small print" issue, It states on every contract "no off paved road driving." Yet they rent 4wd vehicles and jeeps. But if you vehicle was damaged going off road, the LDW would not cover. I routinely see this clause invoked to deny ldw benefits. The use of a AWD via "fraud or misrepresentation" would be no different.[/QUOTE]
This is hardly a risk at all. Unpaved road driving is very safe, unless you drive like an idiot. The chances of any kind of problem is probably much less than the risk on a paved road, since there is so much less traffic (almost no accidents), and modern cars hold up very well. I'm not talking about a jeep road here that requires 4WD to negotiate, but rather an ordinary reasonably maintained 2WD dirt road. I have experienced ALL windshield rock damage on PAVED roads, which is understandable because speeds are much higher and traffic is much heavier. There is also the corollary issue of their car not holding up. Then it's their problem. This can happen anywhere, such as a flat tire. That's not the driver's fault or concern. Simply mount the spare, and you're on your way. Their vehicle failed. |
tru but
rental cars use leasing agreement nowadays. When a car sustains damage in the undercarriage (and they are very specific about it), the car is yours, you cannot turn it back to the car company. a company like avis/Cendant will buy 40,000 cars and not even blink per month. Those cars are "leased" under specific programs with GM and other manufacturers. After a certain amount of time, and a certain amount of miles, the car is eligible for "turn back" to the manufacturer. If the car exceeds that mileage, or exceeds that time, the car is yours and the full price of the car is charged to you.
At turn back, an inspection is done. 99% of the time that cars are rejected, (other than too many miles or too long) the cars are turned back due to undercarriage damage, from off road driving. This is the primary reason they do not want you going off road. Sure its safe if you go slow but if you bottom out once, and bend the wrong part (even if the car operates properly) the car is theirs and they must liquidate it through auto auction yards (and up until recently, car dealerships owned by the rental company). Technically, if the car was inspected and the rover agent upon checkin spotted the undercarriage damage, you would be responsible for the damage to repair the car. However they do not have the time or the means to jack up every car and inspect for off road damage. |
Why would there be undercarriage damage?
Originally Posted by ezmonee
rental cars use leasing agreement nowadays. When a car sustains damage in the undercarriage (and they are very specific about it), the car is yours, you cannot turn it back to the car company. a company like avis/Cendant will buy 40,000 cars and not even blink per month. Those cars are "leased" under specific programs with GM and other manufacturers. After a certain amount of time, and a certain amount of miles, the car is eligible for "turn back" to the manufacturer. If the car exceeds that mileage, or exceeds that time, the car is yours and the full price of the car is charged to you.
At turn back, an inspection is done. 99% of the time that cars are rejected, (other than too many miles or too long) the cars are turned back due to undercarriage damage, from off road driving. This is the primary reason they do not want you going off road. Sure its safe if you go slow but if you bottom out once, and bend the wrong part (even if the car operates properly) the car is theirs and they must liquidate it through auto auction yards (and up until recently, car dealerships owned by the rental company). Technically, if the car was inspected and the rover agent upon checkin spotted the undercarriage damage, you would be responsible for the damage to repair the car. However they do not have the time or the means to jack up every car and inspect for off road damage. You are making the assumption that driving on an unpaved road results in undercarriage damage. This is like assuming that driving on an urban road results in a collision. It's simply not true, again, unless people drive like idiots. Many unpaved roads are in excellent condition. I drove a rental from Alaska on unpaved Yukon highways in 1986 at speeds exceeding 60mph. The roads were in better condition than similar Alaska roads due to the absence of pavement buckling from frost heaves. As roads get more difficult, speed must be reduced. And, at 5 or 10 miles an hour, one can clear many problem areas easily. There is no undercarriage damage. All it takes is good sense. I drive these roads in a rental car in the same manner as I drive my own car on them. Stop discriminating against unpaved roads! The commentary sounds like people have never driven on unpaved roads. BTW, what happens in a construction zone, when pavement has been removed from a highway for 10 miles? Does the rental car trip come to a stop? |
AWD D0052091 + OZ as Residence = 40% Off at Dublin Airport
Hi there folks,
Just wanted to confirm another successful Avis discount deal booked online - Using Avis.com I booked an Intermediate car (Group F = Nissan Primera Automatic) the day before I needed it for collection/return at Dublin airport - starting 31st May for 5 days. I used the discount code AWD D0052091 (Actually I copied this # from the receipt - it does have an extra '0' in the middle, but I've checked and both versions work fine.) I picked the country of residence of Australia which got me a nice big 40% discount (The rate included basic CDW and Theft Protection and unlimited mileage.) Thanks very much to those who posted the relevant info so I got this discount! ^ :-: ^ It did take a while to complete the paperwork at Avis' Dublin Airport Terminal desk, mainly because it was the guy's first week on duty. He had to keep checking stuff with the other staff which was a wee bit nerve-wracking for us... The way they calculated the costs on their form was slightly different and confusing too, but there were no problems really and nothing was queried regarding the discount or country codes. By the way, I recommend you review the damage on your vehicle compared to the marks on the inspection form carefully prior to driving the car away. We were made aware of some marks on the car by the Avis guy and the inspection form which we had to sign at the desk (without seeing the car). I did sign the form but added 'NOT inspected', just in case it was even worse than we imagined! :confused: When we went to collect the car, it did have a surprising amount of damaged paintwork, particularly down the nearside. Still, it appeared to be superficial stuff (and marked on the inspection form) and was just fine inside so we took off on our trip. Well, once we reached Cork and Kerry the exterior damage became much more understandable... The countryside there in the south west of Eire is totally fabulous but extremely narrow and twisty... If I hadn't been used to driving on the left in a right-hand drive car I would probably have been miserable - trying to avoid flying off a cliff or bumping along the side of the rocks or the tour buses! If you're a right lane/left-hand driver, you might want to consider the top-up CDW that removes the 500 Euro damage liability excess... and chosing an automatic would be a huge help too - During our trip we met several US couples with some hair-raising and hilarious tales about driving on the 'wrong' side in a manual car. :D Actually the whole time we spent in Eire was wonderful. We enjoyed ourselves so much that we lost track of time vs distances... on our last morning we realised we would never make it back to Dublin in time and would have to change our return flights and car drop off location from Dublin to Cork. When we called Avis' customer service they happily changed the booking without making any additional charges, which was a very pleasant surprise. Avis' staff at their Cork Airport yard were very obliging too. We were a bit concerned because we hadn't managed to clean the car en route to the airport and it was covered in salt spray and sand when we turned it in. (We had refilled the petrol tank ourselves as arranged (it was full when we collected it) The Avis chap didn't even bat an eyelid about the dirtiness, saying, "Don't worry, that's nothing that a quick run through the car-wash won't fix. You get back in and I'll drop you at the terminal." Splendid service. Lastly... 1. There's a petrol station almost next door to the Avis yard at Cork Airport (and the yard is only a minute or two from the terminal.) 2. I've since received another copy of the Avis receipt through the post and there are no unexpected/additional charges added. All the best, |
First of all, I am not making any assumptions. Dont speak to me like my last name is "avis". I am clarifying issues here, why THEY use that as an excuse to invalidate insurance clauses and LDW. I work there, I dont make the policies. Someone needs to chill.
The easiest phrase to catch all "prohibited" activites is to say "no off paved road driving" instead of "no jeep trails, potholes greater than 18 inches, and because you have a jeep its okay as long as you use common sense, but as long as you drive the car as you would your own and use good judgement when driving on country unpaved roads." Legally its easier to just say "no off finished/paved roads" PERIOD.
Originally Posted by Reindeerflame
It's simply not true, again, unless people drive like idiots.
As roads get more difficult, speed must be reduced. And, at 5 or 10 miles an hour, one can clear many problem areas easily. There is no undercarriage damage. All it takes is good sense. I drive these roads in a rental car in the same manner as I drive my own car on them. If they did use good sense (and honestly, there is a good 20% out there who rent who dont) then they got nothing to worry about. I have personally called tow trucks for chrysler sebrings stuck in the sand 5 feet from the waters edge, usually about 45 feet off the road, at least( happened 5 times this year already), High centered on jeep trails stuck in ditches off unpaved roads and stuck in sand dunes in the desert, and honest to freaking god 145 feet off the road in a cornfield. Hell I even had to reclaim a rental car from a police impound lot after the renter tried to pick up an undercover cop for sex. Common sense following people dont get into situations like that. If you want to drive on unfinished roads, thats your business. Just remember that wether you have coverage or not, you are responsible for the full price of the car until it is returned, then if any damage is detected, its your bill as well. That rule applies on roads as well. LDW and standard roadside may be denied, or even billed back to you, if you violate the contract. It sounds like you know what your doing on country/unfinished roads. Fine. A great deal of people in america have NEVER driven on roads like that. Now thats not an assumption, thats fact. |
AWD P2201035 seems to work well for me in Vegas
Just thought i'd share. I used country of residence as Australia, and P2201035 as the AWD and it saved me about $149 for a 4 day rental
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Does anyone have a current code that offers a real discount for Mexico? For whatever reason, codes seem to have little impact on rentals there. I'd appreciate any input.
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