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Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 9339903)
But if you have an Amex card, I strongly recommend also buying their Premium Rental insurance for $19.95 per rental, as a backup. In your case that would come to about $.95 cents per day.
I usually rent hertz, they usually have the best prices for me, but for an upcoming trip Avis was a third the cost of hertz (really!) and I came over looking for discount codes. I didn't know Amex offered the Premium Rental insurance, what a great find to see that. Having something reasonably priced for primary insurance is great. Thanks. |
stay away
Originally Posted by skchin
(Post 9625262)
Wow, this code drops all luxury, convertable, van... to $75 for 3 days.
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Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 8938630)
I believe you are mistaken on your interpretation. If you read clearly your quote above, it say's coverage is in "excess" to your other sources of insurance". That's the standard credit card insurance. They will only assume any of the leftover liability after you've filed with your own insurance company(s).I'm not interested in filing with my own insurance company first, and than the credit card. The plan I enrolled in with Amex provides PRIMARY coverage. My own auto insurer is never even notified. I'm paying the $19.95 for PRIMARY coverage.
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Originally Posted by LHstatus
(Post 9537354)
i did get this code from an american friend, it is from a travel club he is member with.
code is Z251177 no i.d. it is good discount so far and i did save 20% in washington when my other codes did not work. some other codes were the same but this is with lower risk in my opinion. we are all travelers! |
Originally Posted by obiwan
(Post 9630464)
Bob, thanks for this, I just enrolled. Having lived in NY for sometime, I could never have AMEX cover car rentals but moving to MD and your post really helped^
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Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 8938630)
I believe you are mistaken on your interpretation. If you read clearly your quote above, it say's coverage is in "excess" to your other sources of insurance". That's the standard credit card insurance. They will only assume any of the leftover liability after you've filed with your own insurance company(s).I'm not interested in filing with my own insurance company first, and than the credit card. The plan I enrolled in with Amex provides PRIMARY coverage. My own auto insurer is never even notified. I'm paying the $19.95 for PRIMARY coverage.
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https://www152.americanexpress.com/f...tal/product.do
If that doesn't work or they move it, it's under www.americanexpress.com Travel Car Rental Insurance In the pop up click learn more in the shaded box on the right, click on link for the premium insurance. |
Thanks much!
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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 9493115)
Netjet code K444404 I just checked it with a 7day rental at ZRH - it is the lowest rate by far, and said Unlimited Kilometers.
Anybody has experiences using NetJet code? |
New here, so I apologize if this is old info. Re: the Amex primary rental car coverage....Sign up for it with Amex, reserve the car from Avis with the Amex card. Rent the car. Upon return, if you haven't had an accident, use a different Credit Card to pay. You save the $19.95 fee! Yes??? Comments?
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Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 9651872)
New here, so I apologize if this is old info. Re: the Amex primary rental car coverage....Sign up for it with Amex, reserve the car from Avis with the Amex card. Rent the car. Upon return, if you haven't had an accident, use a different Credit Card to pay. You save the $19.95 fee! Yes??? Comments?
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Originally Posted by jcherney
(Post 9651924)
Sure. It ain't right.
Please don't be too harsh, as I am only tryng to help others in the same spirit as I sense the others are. thanks |
It's actually been discussed quite a bit. I don't have time to cite the thread, but you can do a search for it.
I see a big difference in getting a discount on something versus using a service and not paying for it. Moreover, if you do the change thing enough, I would be very surprised if it didn't come back and bite you. How many times do you think you can get a pre-approval and then not use that approval before Amex catches on?
Originally Posted by JB in AZ
(Post 9651995)
Well, I understand your point, and as a newbie, I sure want to be recognized as a member with valuable input. I have spent hours reading here today, and have come away with the feeling that many other things "ain't right" as you put it, but are commonly accepted here as OK... example, using a corporate ID from a company that you don't work for, so I felt this was a good tip I could add.
Please don't be too harsh, as I am only tryng to help others in the same spirit as I sense the others are. thanks |
Originally Posted by jcherney
(Post 9652125)
It's actually been discussed quite a bit. I don't have time to cite the thread, but you can do a search for it.
I see a big difference in getting a discount on something versus using a service and not paying for it. Moreover, if you do the change thing enough, I would be very surprised if it didn't come back and bite you. How many times do you think you can get a pre-approval and then not use that approval before Amex catches on? I only rent a car about once a year for a vacation, so I doubt it would come back and bite me, but you made good points and I appreciate your insight. I guess thats why I asked for comments. :cool: thanks! |
Use Caution
I noticed while some of the AWD codes actually offer better rates than others, when shopping codes, be sure that you are comparing apples-to-apples. I have found that most of the codes that come up with very low rates, actually offer 0 free miles!! At the end of the day you might be stuck with a much higher bill.
This is especially true on one way rentals! |
When I try to use Code A972200(I guess for Farmers Insurance), it said your insurance are pre-determined based upon your corporate contract. Since this code is for Farmers Insurance employees/business associates, they could have some special insurance agreements.
If I have any kind of accident, this could be a problem later on. Also my Avis preferred renter information and wizard number is not shown on the reservation so I have to go to the counter to check in ??? Anyone have any information what kind of contract they have? I guess I shall not use this code. |
Originally Posted by couscous
(Post 9536246)
Anyone knows a good code to use for a rental in France this summer ? codes above don't work..:(
D005295 $607.60 AI A074800 $640.10 AI G417900 $640.10 AI K444404 $394.62 AI |
IIRC I got K444404 from BA.
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Originally Posted by jcherney
(Post 9652125)
It's actually been discussed quite a bit. I don't have time to cite the thread, but you can do a search for it.
I see a big difference in getting a discount on something versus using a service and not paying for it. Moreover, if you do the change thing enough, I would be very surprised if it didn't come back and bite you. How many times do you think you can get a pre-approval and then not use that approval before Amex catches on? I think its a great idea and will try to remember to use that in the future as well |
It's stealing.
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
(Post 9706252)
For all car rentals and lodging I check in with the AX and often change my card upon checkout/return.. not for the reason you state but b/c of the hold that they put on the cards.. this avoids this completely.. I do this so much that I don't think AX will catch on at all...
I think its a great idea and will try to remember to use that in the future as well Also, do you think Amex got so big by being stupid? You've signed up with them for insurance coverage that activates each time you use your card for an auto rental. Now you sign auto rentals with their card, and use a different card when the car is returned. You honestly think they won't catch on that your stealing their Premium Insurance Coverage? A simple phone call to the rental location will tell them what you did. I believe the purpose of this board has always been to pass along discount and coupon information that is openly available to the public. It's dissapointing that a couple users have opted to step it up to the level of promoting the theft of a companies product. I'm confident that the majority of the users here have a higher level of ethics. Mine may not be the highest, but I don't steal. |
Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 9707136)
I agree with jcherney on this. There is a huge difference in maximizing a discount on a rental, and actually stealing the services that a company offers. In all the years of reading this board, this is the 1st time I remember a user actually advocating something so sleazy. Many states have a statute called "Theft of Services". I'm sure stealing insurance coverage would fall into this or some type of insurance fraud. The Amex coverage on this subject is a great value at $20 bucks. How can anyone justify stealing a lousy $20 from Amex when they have already honored their part of the contract, and taken responsibility for thousands of dollars of your potential damage?
Also, do you think Amex got so big by being stupid? You've signed up with them for insurance coverage that activates each time you use your card for an auto rental. Now you sign auto rentals with their card, and use a I asked this question, and different card when the car is returned. You honestly think they won't catch on that your stealing their Premium Insurance Coverage? A simple phone call to the rental location will tell them what you did. I believe the purpose of this board has always been to pass along discount and coupon information that is openly available to the public. It's dissapointing that a couple users have opted to step it up to the level of promoting the theft of a companies product. I'm confident that the majority of the users here have a higher level of ethics. Mine may not be the highest, but I don't steal. |
My two cents:
While I am not a lawyer, I am certain this does not rise to theft of services. AmEx provides a benefit (insurance) when their card is used to reserve, rent, and pay for a rental. If you use a different card at any of these three points in time AmEx does not provide the benefit. It is interesting that AmEx chooses to structure this arrangement so that the value of the insurance benefit can be determined before it is paid for - but that is how they chose to do it. Further, I expect that AmEx is quite aware of the situation, and is fine with it as they expect most people will forget (or won't be bothered) to switch cards on the return, and are ultimately profiting on balance from the insurance program. A similar situation occurs with the zero interest for a year balance transfer offers most of us get in the mail on a regular basis. The credit card companies assume that the customer will either: 1) fail to pay off the balance transfer before the year is up. 2) do something like make a late payment which removes the zero interest feature. 3) make purchases, which will accrue high interest, and which are not considered paid-off until the balance-transfer amount has been completely paid-off. and therefore will reap some interest payments from the customer. And in most cases they are correct. I used a chain of these offers to pay-off my student loans. I would get the new card with the balance transfer to my student loan company, put the card in a drawer, always pay the minimum balance on time - and always find another offer to transfer my balance to before the interest-free period was over. Similarly in the days of being able to buy US savings bonds via credit card, I racked up a huge number of Delta miles (and some cash profit) by purchasing savings bonds on my DL Amex (getting double miles most of the times that I did it), and then transferring off to a zero interest card that would be paid off by cashing in the bonds immediately before the zero interest feature expired. While I am sure the credit card companies would classify me as a freeloader, I have never encountered someone who would accuse me of stealing for doing what I did, and I think on balance the credit card companies ultimately made enough profit on such offers that they are willing to continue the practice in spite of people like me. In short and in my opinion, the credit card switch to get AmEx insurance but paying only when you need it is (like the use of zero-interest balance transfers) a loophole and is neither illegal nor immoral. But it is a bit of a hassle, and some people may find it tacky. If amex really was concerned about it, they would attach the $20 fee when the authorization is made and not at the end of the rental. |
I Thought This Was The Sticky For Avis Coupon Codes
This discussion about AMEX coverage is nice but does it belong here? Start another thread so those of us looking for new coupon codes don't have to muddle through it all. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by VPescado
(Post 9718823)
My two cents:
While I am not a lawyer, I am certain this does not rise to theft of services. AmEx provides a benefit (insurance) when their card is used to reserve, rent, and pay for a rental. If you use a different card at any of these three points in time AmEx does not provide the benefit. It is interesting that AmEx chooses to structure this arrangement so that the value of the insurance benefit can be determined before it is paid for - but that is how they chose to do it. Further, I expect that AmEx is quite aware of the situation, and is fine with it as they expect most people will forget (or won't be bothered) to switch cards on the return, and are ultimately profiting on balance from the insurance program. If amex really was concerned about it, they would attach the $20 fee when the authorization is made and not at the end of the rental. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Everyone is entitled to their own set of ethics and moral guidelines. JB, welcome to the board. There are no bad guys here, just different opinions, but there all welcome. |
Isn't it odd that this AMEX issue is such a big one here, when much of the board consists of helping people to use discount codes (Netjets, etc.) for which they are not eligible?
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Originally Posted by arkangel
(Post 9691189)
Try K444404. For a 13 day rental of an intermediate vehicle (e.g., Laguna) in July from/to BRU, it beat my old standby D005295, and others, by a wide margin, as follows:
D005295 $607.60 AI A074800 $640.10 AI G417900 $640.10 AI K444404 $394.62 AI At the end we switched to a United Airlines code which offered only 15% discount and $100 higher, but was risk-free. The manager was happy also as we had United FF number in the original reservation, so that satisfied him. |
Just processed 131 codes for Avis, found at various points in this entire thread (admittedly, I didn't collect all of the codes...who *really* wants to wade thru 80 pages?).
Parameters Site: www.avis.ca (I'm from Canada) Rental Location: Calgary Start Rental Date: 23-Jul-08 09:00AM End Rental Date: 28-Jul-08 09:00AM Total: 5 days Car Type: Premium 4-door Mileage: Unlimited kilometers Extra Accessories (GPS/Satellite radio/etc): none Additional:
Here are the results. The "Description" for each code is from the descriptions given in the post it was retrieved from (if there is no description, there was no useful description). Please feel free to make comments/corrrections on codes and descriptions where necessary (ie: Avis employee code, this code is taboo, need ID for this code, etc). Benchmark: No code (results in finding the lowest price) - 387.70 CAD Code..........Description..........Cost A7H57Q..........First Consulting Group..........***INVALID*** K933001....................***INVALID*** X416929....................***INVALID*** B999000..........DO NOT USE..........193.46 CAD A153700..........Avis Employee Discount Rate - does work...internationally. When making a reservation always use the country in which the rental takes place as your home of record. No USA!..........198.66 CAD A972200..........Farmer's Insurance..........240.66 CAD A432123..........May be best European rate..........287.96 CAD A6791000..........Hawaii State Bar..........287.96 CAD B638829..........WGBH Boston 25% discount..........287.96 CAD B790000..........Entertainment Book..........287.96 CAD K817200..........Starwood..........287.96 CAD Z870001....................287.96 CAD D005291..........Special AA rate 40% discount in Switz...........289.01 CAD D005297..........Amateur Sports Assistance Program ***NEW***..........289.01 CAD J626300..........Toronto..........289.01 CAD A515100..........Deloitte..........302.40 CAD E027237....................303.71 CAD O377103....................303.71 CAD O377111....................303.71 CAD O377168....................303.71 CAD D459000....................314.21 CAD E034800....................314.21 CAD E034803....................314.21 CAD E034815....................314.21 CAD K353927....................314.21 CAD A442100..........Deloitte..........323.40 CAD L282800..........Best Rates?? - Special UA code..........336.25 CAD P400000..........Tourism Association- Good Rate..........336.25 CAD A108300.........."Cosco - international, too!"..........360.40 CAD A108303..........Costco ***Good Rate***..........360.40 CAD A108325..........Costco ***Good Rate***..........360.40 CAD A108335..........Costco ***Good Rate***..........360.40 CAD A298840..........South Carolina Farm Bureau..........360.40 CAD A359800..........Unknown..........360.40 CAD A415900..........BJs Wholesale..........360.40 CAD A733315..........Priority Pass..........360.40 CAD B021615..........Walmart..........360.40 CAD B116099..........Cheap Premium Car rate at LAX..........360.40 CAD B149870..........Endless Vacation - great Hawaii rates..........360.40 CAD B254700..........Savers Clubs of America..........360.40 CAD B335100..........Unknown..........360.40 CAD B401511..........Stanford University..........360.40 CAD B868700.........."Unknown, Supposedly a great rate"..........360.40 CAD B900000..........generic AAA code..........360.40 CAD B935221..........Sam's Club..........360.40 CAD C025558....................360.40 CAD C066983..........Golf Entertainment Association LDW included – thanks EliteSuite..........360.40 CAD C070127..........try these two first..........360.40 CAD C280613....................360.40 CAD D302003..........Sears and it saved me more than C031529 – Check it out!..........360.40 CAD D453800..........25% off Worldwide..........360.40 CAD D454000.........."Disney123 - international, too!"..........360.40 CAD D496201..........(TUGB242 for weekend)..........360.40 CAD G298100..........Gevoha - Best rates try first - no underage fee - $62 at JFK..........360.40 CAD G417900....................360.40 CAD K020500..........America West FlightFund..........360.40 CAD K197800..........Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan..........360.40 CAD K444404.........."Netjets - great prices, international also"..........360.40 CAD K817100..........American Airlines AAdvantage..........360.40 CAD K817421..........Unknown..........360.40 CAD K817700..........Unknown..........360.40 CAD K851000..........Hilton HHonors..........360.40 CAD L093590..........(TELEMARKETING PRE-ASSIGNED) Kellwood ***Max $3K Liablity***Good Rate***..........360.40 CAD L149332..........$45 a day premium - usually an upgrade also..........360.40 CAD L237904..........best in some places..........360.40 CAD O855800..........Lufthansa HON Circle..........360.40 CAD T111949..........Another great code..........360.40 CAD T844211..........Unknown..........360.40 CAD U405347..........Could be the best..........360.40 CAD Y490870....................360.40 CAD Z001181..........Good FL code..........360.40 CAD Z284372..........Cheaper than Costco Rate?..........360.40 CAD A076600..........Compuserve Travel Forum..........379.30 CAD A205700..........Inside Flyer..........379.30 CAD A699800....................379.30 CAD A735600..........Outdoor Writers Association..........379.30 CAD D002807..........Great rates..........379.30 CAD D005150.........."National Charter Schools Conference - international, too!"..........379.30 CAD D005591..........National Council of Youth Sports..........379.30 CAD D005620..........Unknown..........379.30 CAD D005927.........."National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees - international, too!"..........379.30 CAD D086532....................379.30 CAD D086533..........Marshall School of Business of USC **Good Rate**..........379.30 CAD D086689..........American Association of Engineers-35% Discount?..........379.30 CAD J868801..........Florida Visitor Bureau - good code (Unknown-As good as D002807?)..........379.30 CAD K817600..........Delta Air Lines SkyMiles..........379.30 CAD A113400..........State of FL employee rate-->EXCELLENT RATE!!..........398.20 CAD A177204..........USAA Insurance Company - Great rates..........398.20 CAD A177232.........."Citifinancial - international, too!"..........398.20 CAD A555095..........Military rate - hard to beat From Here..........398.20 CAD A555500..........US Government – Free Upgrade Use Coupon UULA004 - Linky..........398.20 CAD A600000..........Jeppesen..........398.20 CAD B270898....................398.20 CAD B449700.........."Unknown, Supposedly a great rate-Yes!!!!"..........398.20 CAD B973000..........Gusto Card..........398.20 CAD D331000..........Unknown..........398.20 CAD D752500..........35% off in Europe..........398.20 CAD D833357..........The American Society of Travel Agents..........398.20 CAD E888804..........HON Circle - Avis President's Club From Here All President's Club benefits..........398.20 CAD J098440..........Canon Communications..........398.20 CAD J946780..........National Weather Association..........398.20 CAD K163324.........."Florida Space Coast Golf Association, AAU Rate"..........398.20 CAD K199060..........Great FL Rates - from major Florida tourism organization - anyone can use..........398.20 CAD K250544..........Underage Discount Rate..........398.20 CAD K305600..........Unknown..........398.20 CAD K305800..........Unknown..........398.20 CAD K306000..........Marco Polo..........398.20 CAD K312601..........American Express..........398.20 CAD K501300..........Unknown-Better than D002807? Not so far!..........398.20 CAD K666403..........Unknown..........398.20 CAD K747902..........Unknown..........398.20 CAD K774100..........Avis Online Discount..........398.20 CAD K860600..........Starwood Preferred Guest- seems to be geared towards higher Hawaii discounts..........398.20 CAD N531001....................398.20 CAD P469100..........Amex Centurion..........398.20 CAD P469101....................398.20 CAD P6824002..........Queensland Government rate - Australia - No ID required..........398.20 CAD P786700..........New South Whales Government rate - No ID required..........398.20 CAD X048301....................398.20 CAD X992288....................398.20 CAD Z047500....................398.20 CAD Z333300..........Virgin Atlantic..........398.20 CAD A451300..........Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association..........650.21 CAD A563100..........Baylor University..........650.21 CAD N711304....................650.21 CAD W925817....................650.21 CAD W925828....................650.21 CAD W925880....................650.21 CAD A074800..........Citicorp Leisure Travel – May beat them all! – Check this one out!..........807.71 CAD F999303..........State of Texas..........807.71 CAD V125600..........Ohio State University 18 OK..........807.71 CAD |
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 9725945)
We were asked to produce ID when we picked up our car at Zurich city office - the manager would not let it go without ID as it showed in his system as being 40% discount. In fact, the clerk caught it and called the manager's attention. The manager was extremely polite but also very firm about not giving the discount. He also hinted about people getting codes from internet site and Avis would do audit on unusually high discount - at the end would bill the full rate even after rental...
At the end we switched to a United Airlines code which offered only 15% discount and $100 higher, but was risk-free. The manager was happy also as we had United FF number in the original reservation, so that satisfied him. |
Question about one of the discount codes listed above.
I'm doing some price investigations for a trip back to Pennsylvania for Christmas this year, and I found this code through Google and this site: K199060..........Great FL Rates - from major Florida tourism organization - anyone can use..........398.20 CAD I plugged the code into Avis's online reservation, and it came up with a spectacular rate for a 5 day compact rental of $160.00 USD. I'd love to use this code, and I just want to make sure there won't be any issues if I do. Any help would be appreciated. |
More on Farmers Code...
I went into my profile and changed the code to that of Farmers. No issues. However, I learned when I called to get my Wizard number on the reservation that the code by corporate policy does not allow one to collect FF Miles as part of the rental. Not a big deal but a surprise. They then added my Wizard number and now I should be able to zip through.
Also, I buy the LDW (was cheaper throught the Farmers code trhat to use the one with Free LDW) because I have already been down the road of having to see a co-worker use their personal auto insurance to cover an accident on company time. My company doesn't do the corporate AMEX plan for the insurance and I am not going to carry them for it.
Originally Posted by Tak
(Post 9677267)
When I try to use Code A972200(I guess for Farmers Insurance), it said your insurance are pre-determined based upon your corporate contract. Since this code is for Farmers Insurance employees/business associates, they could have some special insurance agreements.
If I have any kind of accident, this could be a problem later on. Also my Avis preferred renter information and wizard number is not shown on the reservation so I have to go to the counter to check in ??? Anyone have any information what kind of contract they have? I guess I shall not use this code. |
I did a rental using a code that wasn't good for a one way rental.
The SA put in another AWD that matched my rate-$44 for mid-size one day rental (we do one way rentals to LAX instead of bothering friends for rides). AWD: A7895000 I googled it, but can't find any information on it, but that is what's in my R/A. Hope someone else can use it. |
Good AWD for Australia??
Tried all the codes above from #1187 Kulstad
BUT not anyone works to decrease the rental price!! Any good AWD codes for use in Australia?? Thanks |
Originally Posted by cardiology
(Post 9807364)
Tried all the codes above from #1187 Kulstad
BUT not anyone works to decrease the rental price!! Any good AWD codes for use in Australia?? Thanks |
Need best code for one way from Seattle to Whistler BC
I'm trying to find the best rate for a one way rental from Seattle airport to Whistler British Columbia. I would prefer unlimited mileage. I will also return with a one way from Whistler back to Seattle. We don't need the car while we are in Whistler. Any suggestions for best one way codes?
Thanks, rob |
Information on following AWD codes?
Hi, I'm new here and I'm traveling to Italy in a week. I'm renting a car for a couple of days and I found that these codes give me the best rates. Does anybody know whose corporate codes these are?
N711304 E034803 E034800 E027237 E034815 I called the customer service line and the person I spoke to said that he couldn't tell whose codes they were on his side. Any help would be appreciated. I want to be sure it's ok to use the codes listed above. Thanks, clewless |
Hi Clewless, Welcome to Flyertalk,
I would strongly suggest that you DON'T call Customer Services with questions like this. Not sure if they can but they may flag your account as trying to use codes you are not permitted to use. If you are allowed to use a code for work reasons etc then you would know what it is and not need to ask. Just take a look at this thread and try the various codes on here that have been proven to work. Or even try googling the codes. Seasoned Flyertalkers know that when it comes to getting discounts with cars/hotels or airfares you really don't want to call the company and draw attention to yourself. Happy renting, Rich
Originally Posted by clewless
(Post 9817387)
I called the customer service line and the person I spoke to said that he couldn't tell whose codes they were on his side. Any help would be appreciated. I want to be sure it's ok to use the codes listed above.
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Thanks for the welcome and heads up Aerotec. Fortunately, I didn't disclose any of my information and stated I was just trying to get some info. I've been trying to find information on the codes I found for a couple weeks now. Google only points me to this forum and I can't seem to find any description on the codes. I was just trying to see if someone knew of them off hand since I see a lot of experienced travelers here.
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Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 9635302)
My pleasure. Even though the code I use most often (G417900) has LDW included, I still buy the extra primary coverage from Amex on every rental. In my opinion, it's just too good a deal to pass up.
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AWD Codes for LAX
Hi all,
By holding a valid IATA ID Card, what benefits would one receive from car rental firms? |
Is this 50 % rate going to raise red flags on Grand Cayman?
I tried a handful of codes and got the following rates for a 6-day rental of an intermediate on Grand Cayman:
No code, plus a few codes that were useless: $269.94 USD D005297: $242.95 USD Then I get this ... K444404: $134.97 USD Will that rate send up a red flag to the clerk at the desk? |
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