Apr 16, 2014, 6:59 am
Last edit by: Hyacinthe
This thread is a continuation of discussion which began HERE in 2011.
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
Referrals and self-referrals are an important part of churning Canadian-issued American Express cards. It is appropriate to discuss how the referral process works in this thread. However, please do not offer or request referrals here.
Use only this thread, and do read the Wikipost carefully before posting:
Referral Offers (post only in this thread, no referral links, read Wiki post first).
JerryHung: I figure I'll include all CURRENT AMEX Canada offers here (no referral links) for anyone curious about what the bonus and fees are
This is not an all-inclusive list, only the "good" offers, so feel free to add new offers
AMEX Platinum - $699/year, 60K MR (via referral) after $1000 spending in 3 months vs. 50K non-referral
AMEX Gold Rewards - $150/year, FYF, 25K MR after $500 spending + $50 cashback from GCR
AMEX Air Miles Platinum - $65/year, FYF, 2000 Air Miles after $500 spending + $30 GCR cashback
New as of 2014/10/09
AMEX Business Gold - $250/year, FYF, 30K MR after $5000 spending (or 40K via referral)
AMEX Business Platinum - $399/year, 40K MR after $5000 spending (or 50K via referral)
Churning Amex in Canada (2014)
Mar 29, 2014, 8:43 pm
#481
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: yow,yvr,yxx
Programs: aeroplan airmiles priorityclub choiceprivilege asiamiles spg bw
Posts: 317
Is there a way to file a complaint about this? It does not look like this is an isolated case/occurrence ...
Mar 29, 2014, 9:15 pm
#482
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,408
For the most part, this entire page of posts has just been a re-hash of the same thing that has been discussed for months.
Mar 29, 2014, 9:17 pm
#483
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
If you ready the terms and conditions that you signed up for, you have not been shorted. Yes it is a departure form previously established Amex practice, but their policy has always been 8-10 weeks for bonuses to post, so until that time expires, you have very little scope to complain.
Mar 29, 2014, 9:37 pm
#484
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: yow,yvr,yxx
Programs: aeroplan airmiles priorityclub choiceprivilege asiamiles spg bw
Posts: 317
If you ready the terms and conditions that you signed up for, you have not been shorted. Yes it is a departure form previously established Amex practice, but their policy has always been 8-10 weeks for bonuses to post, so until that time expires, you have very little scope to complain.
Also, is it stated anywhere in the fineprint that the 25k is actually split into 15k & 10k to be posted at different time?
The referral email seems to suggest 25k will be earned once $500 is crossed within the first 3 months. Why have I only received 15k when the $500 is crossed?
Mar 29, 2014, 9:45 pm
#485
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: YYZ (YUL/LHR)
Programs: AC - E50, CX - G, Accor Plat, SPG Gold
Posts: 903
I could not find the fineprint which states that 8-10 weeks to post bonuses ...
Also, is it stated anywhere in the fineprint that the 25k is actually split into 15k & 10k to be posted at different time?
The referral email seems to suggest 25k will be earned once $500 is crossed within the first 3 months. Why have I only received 15k when the $500 is crossed?
Also, is it stated anywhere in the fineprint that the 25k is actually split into 15k & 10k to be posted at different time?
The referral email seems to suggest 25k will be earned once $500 is crossed within the first 3 months. Why have I only received 15k when the $500 is crossed?
Mar 29, 2014, 9:48 pm
#486
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,408
I could not find the fineprint which states that 8-10 weeks to post bonuses ...
Also, is it stated anywhere in the fineprint that the 25k is actually split into 15k & 10k to be posted at different time?
The referral email seems to suggest 25k will be earned once $500 is crossed within the first 3 months. Why have I only received 15k when the $500 is crossed?
Also, is it stated anywhere in the fineprint that the 25k is actually split into 15k & 10k to be posted at different time?
The referral email seems to suggest 25k will be earned once $500 is crossed within the first 3 months. Why have I only received 15k when the $500 is crossed?
Mar 29, 2014, 10:02 pm
#487
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: yow,yvr,yxx
Programs: aeroplan airmiles priorityclub choiceprivilege asiamiles spg bw
Posts: 317
VH, for the past 2+ years the posting of welcome points for the MR cards have been nearly flawless and immediate (< 1 day) after reaching the $500 threshold spending. Unfortunately, the state of the Amex Mototron is that not all cylinders are firing, so be glad that you got SOME points. There are others, myself included, who got NONE (was for my Biz Gold MR), and then 11 weeks later BOOM, the points arrived. Hopefully you won't have to wait as long as I did.
I guess I will wait for the 8-10 weeks period before contacting csr again.
Mar 29, 2014, 10:15 pm
#488
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Platinum, Aeroplan Diamond, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 18,686
Not true. Personal Gold MR, Biz Gold MR and Plat MR cards, ALL have ALSO been plagued with inconsistent posting of welcome points (and referral points), either entirely are partially...it's been going on for months! Where have you been, Ancien, that you haven't noticed all of these related posts?
For the most part, this entire page of posts has just been a re-hash of the same thing that has been discussed for months.
For the most part, this entire page of posts has just been a re-hash of the same thing that has been discussed for months.
Its only been recent that the Gold Biz, Gold Rewards, and MR Platinum been experiencing high volume of problems. I certainly haven't had problems of MR points posting personally for my MR Amexes. If you are saying that the MR cards are JUST as plagued with problems in the past except recently, then I'll have to agree to disagree.
I believe a higher volume of problems began to occur when Plat Amex started abolishing CX Gold and some lounge privileges. It started snowballing from there.
Mar 30, 2014, 1:52 am
#489
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
Mar 30, 2014, 7:53 am
#490
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,408
For simple matters, using the Secured-Message system while logged in at Amex.ca, is sufficient/suitable. For missing points, as discussed MANY times within the past few months, it's best to CALL and speak to a rep. Weekday business hours are the best times to call, in my experience.
Good luck.
Mar 30, 2014, 1:46 pm
#491
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
Was just chatting with one of my friend, who self-refer from Plat to Gold, and here are the data point for reference:
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
Mar 31, 2014, 2:50 am
#492
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
Was just chatting with one of my friend, who self-refer from Plat to Gold, and here are the data point for reference:
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
Mar 31, 2014, 7:48 pm
#493
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Platinum, Aeroplan Diamond, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 18,686
This extra step is annoying, and I've been met with some requests refused.
Apr 1, 2014, 7:13 pm
#494
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
Was just chatting with one of my friend, who self-refer from Plat to Gold, and here are the data point for reference:
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
- Mid-Jan 2014, self-Refer using a different email address, instant approval
- Activate using existing online profile, MR account merged automatically.
- Plat card cancelled and the MR account still show MR First (I know it mean nothing, but just thought to provide a bit more detail)
- Spend $500+ and got only 15K MR bonus
- Called in and ask for the missing 10K, agent first try to say, you got 30K already as it saw the 15K referral from self-refer. But after "discuss" with the agent a bit more, the agent agree to "file for missing MR" to the appropriate department. 3-4 days later, 10K show up
Hope this info help some people.
Apr 2, 2014, 7:13 am
#495
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Bonvoy, Alaska, Avios
Posts: 1,290
Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The SPG bonus points offers have been slashed! Not really worth bothering with them now...