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FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
ARCHIVE: SWU / VIP / eVIP Systemwide Upgrade questions
#1471
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
So AA either wants to reduce hold times or has significant expansion plans on the horizon, not to mention the possibility of expanding the CK ranks.
#1472
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: AA Platinum 7+ million miles
Posts: 139
So, my question is, being platinum with just over 7 million lifetime miles, why did I get 4 swu's for the first time this year? Why didn't I get more if there's supposed to be one for every million crossed? And finally, is this a one time thing for me unless I cross 8 million?
#1473
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
So, my question is, being platinum with just over 7 million lifetime miles, why did I get 4 swu's for the first time this year? Why didn't I get more if there's supposed to be one for every million crossed? And finally, is this a one time thing for me unless I cross 8 million?
#1474
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: AA EXP, HYATT DIA
Posts: 276
Its is only in the last couple of years we could see the number of SWUs online; otherwise you had to keep track of them yourselves or call to check how many you had. That being said, some elites never new they had any, especially the million mile thresholds.
#1475
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 12,097
AA has always notified everyone with nice congratulatory letters (now emails) at each MM threshold passing telling you about the SWUs and even containing a pretty exhaustive fine print about them. There's no need for FT.
People who don't pay attention to their mail pay for it.
People who don't pay attention to their mail pay for it.
#1476
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: AA Platinum 7+ million miles
Posts: 139
Well, that is dissapointing to find out now. Wow...Thanks for the explantions. I read that stuff pretty closely, I'm not saying I didn't receive those letters as I do recall the congratulations as I passed, but I'm really surprised I didn't notice the swu as at 7 million miles, that's quite a few times to miss them. One or two times maybe but 7? Guess my Grandpa was right...
#1477
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: AA ExP, DL Diamond, AF Plat, AS 75K, Hertz #1 Gold, National Executive, SPG Gold
Posts: 197
transfer? I didn't know this can be done. Or it's just "using it on someone's reservation"
#1478
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
Well, that is dissapointing to find out now. Wow...Thanks for the explantions. I read that stuff pretty closely, I'm not saying I didn't receive those letters as I do recall the congratulations as I passed, but I'm really surprised I didn't notice the swu as at 7 million miles, that's quite a few times to miss them. One or two times maybe but 7? Guess my Grandpa was right...
Cheers.
#1479
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA LT PLT; HH Diamond; AS 75K
Posts: 2,879
I waded through the 96 pages of the closed thread and think I understand it but would like some feedback.
Scenario: SEA-ORD-PVG in 1 week. Possibly 2 C and 2 F seats open so doubtful it'll clear until day of departure. I'm currently waitlisted to upgrade Y > C with a SWU. SEA departure day before and will check-in at airport ~ 22 hours before the ORD-PVG flight.
Questions:
1. SWU upgrade priority by thru passenger and then time of check-in?
2. If I check-in 24 hours prior to the ORD-PVG departure I should be 1st on the upgrade list? And I have to ask to be placed on the list?
3. I've never been able to do OLCI with a destination that requires a visa. Is this still true?
Thanks
Scenario: SEA-ORD-PVG in 1 week. Possibly 2 C and 2 F seats open so doubtful it'll clear until day of departure. I'm currently waitlisted to upgrade Y > C with a SWU. SEA departure day before and will check-in at airport ~ 22 hours before the ORD-PVG flight.
Questions:
1. SWU upgrade priority by thru passenger and then time of check-in?
2. If I check-in 24 hours prior to the ORD-PVG departure I should be 1st on the upgrade list? And I have to ask to be placed on the list?
3. I've never been able to do OLCI with a destination that requires a visa. Is this still true?
Thanks
#1481
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 12,097
Yes.
Yes, amongst those passengers originating at the same airport as you, and yes, at the airport.
Sorry, don't know.
Sorry, don't know.
#1482
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA LT PLT; HH Diamond; AS 75K
Posts: 2,879
Although, here's an interesting thought. I can check-in 24 hours in advance of the domestic (SEA-ORD) flight and 24 hours before the international (ORD-PVG). Would the upgrade list start at the domestic time or the international - meaning can they put you on the airport list more than 24 hours from the international departure? A number of years ago there was a way they could manipulate the computer date and check-in someone that was more than 24 hours from departure time. Essentially, I would be checking in 46 hours before the international segment.
#1483
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG LT Plat, AA 3MM EXP
Posts: 397
How soon, after making EXP, do the SWUs show up in the account? I have a 1 week trip coming up and will make it on the first leg. For the return, do I have a shot to use one of them? Thanks.
#1484
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
You could always call the EXP desk and ask if you can go negative on the balance -- since they can see your AAdvantage account and verify that you have already qualified and are simply waiting for the eVIPs to be deposited.
#1485
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA LT PLT; HH Diamond; AS 75K
Posts: 2,879
I waded through the 96 pages of the closed thread and think I understand it but would like some feedback.
Scenario: SEA-ORD-PVG in 1 week. Possibly 2 C and 2 F seats open so doubtful it'll clear until day of departure. I'm currently waitlisted to upgrade Y > C with a SWU. SEA departure day before and will check-in at airport ~ 22 hours before the ORD-PVG flight.
Questions:
1. SWU upgrade priority by thru passenger and then time of check-in?
2. If I check-in 24 hours prior to the ORD-PVG departure I should be 1st on the upgrade list? And I have to ask to be placed on the list?
3. I've never been able to do OLCI with a destination that requires a visa. Is this still true?
Thanks
Scenario: SEA-ORD-PVG in 1 week. Possibly 2 C and 2 F seats open so doubtful it'll clear until day of departure. I'm currently waitlisted to upgrade Y > C with a SWU. SEA departure day before and will check-in at airport ~ 22 hours before the ORD-PVG flight.
Questions:
1. SWU upgrade priority by thru passenger and then time of check-in?
2. If I check-in 24 hours prior to the ORD-PVG departure I should be 1st on the upgrade list? And I have to ask to be placed on the list?
3. I've never been able to do OLCI with a destination that requires a visa. Is this still true?
Thanks
OLCI didn't work which I suspect was the visa issue.
Thanks FT! ^