Booking AA Award travel on Etihad / EY - [2015-17 ARCHIVE]
#3001
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Indeed, such a thing is a risk with partners - the other airlines can have ticketing time limits on bookings and if not ticketed by that time, the hold will get cancelled.
Even if you had purchased 6 houts earlier, unless ticketed immefdiately, the same issue could still have occurred
Even if you had purchased 6 houts earlier, unless ticketed immefdiately, the same issue could still have occurred
#3002
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I've been booted 3x from EY101 to 103, AA has moved me back, but they say that is is Etihad doing this. Now maybe etihad knows something we dont know. Maybe they are going remove the a380 off the 101? Or maybe they are just disallowing award tix? Today even though the 101 seat are available online, and the agent can see them, he can not confirm the seats. Uhg.
#3003
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ORD
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I've been booted 3x from EY101 to 103, AA has moved me back, but they say that is is Etihad doing this. Now maybe etihad knows something we dont know. Maybe they are going remove the a380 off the 101? Or maybe they are just disallowing award tix? Today even though the 101 seat are available online, and the agent can see them, he can not confirm the seats. Uhg.
#3004
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: HNL <-> BOS
Posts: 382
I've been booted 3x from EY101 to 103, AA has moved me back, but they say that is is Etihad doing this. Now maybe etihad knows something we dont know. Maybe they are going remove the a380 off the 101? Or maybe they are just disallowing award tix? Today even though the 101 seat are available online, and the agent can see them, he can not confirm the seats. Uhg.
#3005
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 22
I don't know if its just me, but I'm unable to get US / AUS / NZ to see any J availability on AUH - US destinations in April 2018, when there are 4+ seats showing on Etihad's Guest inventory. They are able to see Y availability though.
Is this a glitch, or something larger happening?
Is this a glitch, or something larger happening?
#3006
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 5
I don't know if its just me, but I'm unable to get US / AUS / NZ to see any J availability on AUH - US destinations in April 2018, when there are 4+ seats showing on Etihad's Guest inventory. They are able to see Y availability though.
Is this a glitch, or something larger happening?
Is this a glitch, or something larger happening?
One question, as AUH-AMM only have J cabin, the correct way to book the mixed cabin award would be book LHR-AUH-AMM in J, put the reservation on hold and then try to put the first segment in F?
Thanks in advance.
#3007
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AA Exec Platinum, Delta Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 48
I just went through the same ordeal. Trying to book MLE-AUH-JFK in F for April 2018. Tried calling AU and US numbers and they couldn’t see anything. When I tried NZ, they also didn’t see anything but when he looked further the agent got a notification saying the Etihad awards hadn’t been updated in the system and to try back in an hour. So... crossing my fingers!
#3008
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MLB
Programs: DL DM/2.9M, AA EXP, *A Gold
Posts: 245
I just went through the same ordeal. Trying to book MLE-AUH-JFK in F for April 2018. Tried calling AU and US numbers and they couldn’t see anything. When I tried NZ, they also didn’t see anything but when he looked further the agent got a notification saying the Etihad awards hadn’t been updated in the system and to try back in an hour. So... crossing my fingers!
Thanks for posting about the possibility that the award space simply not being updated. Now that it is a known issue, it may not be long for them to get it fixed.
#3009
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: IAD
Posts: 166
Need help/suggestion,
My wife is traveling to india with two kids(5yr and 2yr). I dont want to book 3 business seats because all three can fit in two seats. I prefer 2 bus and one economy to save miles. Will they allow to book my 5 yr old in economy?
My wife is traveling to india with two kids(5yr and 2yr). I dont want to book 3 business seats because all three can fit in two seats. I prefer 2 bus and one economy to save miles. Will they allow to book my 5 yr old in economy?
#3011
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AA Exec Platinum, Delta Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 48
I tried calling back to the AA NZ call center and still no availability. After some back and forth, the agent told me she is actually located in Trinidad and, they are handling the calls for that call center.
So OZ call center is in Fiji and NZ call center is in Trinidad.
I'm so confused!
I see availability on Etihad and Expertflyer and I can't book it
So OZ call center is in Fiji and NZ call center is in Trinidad.
I'm so confused!
I see availability on Etihad and Expertflyer and I can't book it
#3012
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MLB
Programs: DL DM/2.9M, AA EXP, *A Gold
Posts: 245
I tried calling back to the AA NZ call center and still no availability. After some back and forth, the agent told me she is actually located in Trinidad and, they are handling the calls for that call center.
So OZ call center is in Fiji and NZ call center is in Trinidad.
I'm so confused!
I see availability on Etihad and Expertflyer and I can't book it
So OZ call center is in Fiji and NZ call center is in Trinidad.
I'm so confused!
I see availability on Etihad and Expertflyer and I can't book it
#3013
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AA Exec Platinum, Delta Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 48
Ok, so I tried calling AA UK number, and it routed me to Fiji (even though its 7:30pm in UK). The agent told me that they use a Sabre-based system called Acorn. I am aware of the Amadeus/Sabre issue but I guess my problem is being able to get to a call center that's actually based where its based, as I think most European call centers are on Amadeus.
However, I did make an award booking in J through the OZ call enter in July so I'm starting to think its not a technical issue. Also, I was able to reserve the MLE-AUH leg, but not AUH-JFK.
My conclusion is that it might be EY limiting redemptions from AAdvantage, all the while its showing Guest-bookable on their site.
However, I did make an award booking in J through the OZ call enter in July so I'm starting to think its not a technical issue. Also, I was able to reserve the MLE-AUH leg, but not AUH-JFK.
My conclusion is that it might be EY limiting redemptions from AAdvantage, all the while its showing Guest-bookable on their site.
#3014
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,632
Quite strange. Out of ORD, there is occasional close-in J availability (e.g. 5 for tomorrow, and a few next week) and 2 are available every day ~330 days out. However, out of JFK, there is zero availability close-in, and zero ~330 days out. Just nothing at all ever.
The above is for searching one-ways USA-AUH. If searching using round-trips originating in AUH, there is lots of availability USA-AUH both close-in and ~330 days out. That difference is not news, but the question is why ORD should be favored over JFK for US-originating one-way award listings, in spite of the much higher capacity out of JFK.
Whether all shown availability can be booked is a separate question, but I was able to book an ORD-originating award nearly 330 days out so that part is real.
The above is for searching one-ways USA-AUH. If searching using round-trips originating in AUH, there is lots of availability USA-AUH both close-in and ~330 days out. That difference is not news, but the question is why ORD should be favored over JFK for US-originating one-way award listings, in spite of the much higher capacity out of JFK.
Whether all shown availability can be booked is a separate question, but I was able to book an ORD-originating award nearly 330 days out so that part is real.
#3015
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 22
So I called the NZ line, and checked for J availability from AUH-US destinations in September, and they were available on all the dates Etihad showed Guest availability.
But they still cannot see J availability for dates next year. So perhaps they are only releasing in the short-term and holding back the rest?
But they still cannot see J availability for dates next year. So perhaps they are only releasing in the short-term and holding back the rest?