Booking AA Award travel on Etihad / EY - [2015-17 ARCHIVE]
#2986
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Some people have had success, however there is no recourse if the airline declines to move back other than cancelling the booking
Wih the schedule change, the system has simply worked at rebooking on the best option and a later departure with same time arrival does meet that
Just need to wait and see what the airline comes back with
Wih the schedule change, the system has simply worked at rebooking on the best option and a later departure with same time arrival does meet that
Just need to wait and see what the airline comes back with
#2987
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A schedule change from 2:15 PM to 2:00 PM seems extremely unlikely to have caused an automated reaccommodation to a 10:00 PM flight. In my experience, auto-reaccommodation is only triggered when there's a connecting flight in the same record that becomes illegal (in the majority of cases, I've not been auto-reaccommodated but had to call). An auto-reaccommodation for a 15-minute change without connecting flights in the same record would be highly unusual in my experience. reverted said the flights to JFK are on another airline, so presumably in a separate PNR.
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#2989
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A schedule change from 2:15 PM to 2:00 PM seems extremely unlikely to have caused an automated reaccommodation to a 10:00 PM flight. In my experience, auto-reaccommodation is only triggered when there's a connecting flight in the same record that becomes illegal (in the majority of cases, I've not been auto-reaccommodated but had to call). An auto-reaccommodation for a 15-minute change without connecting flights in the same record would be highly unusual in my experience. reverted said the flights to JFK are on another airline, so presumably in a separate PNR.
#2991
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Called NZ yesterday and put 2 JFK-AUH in First on hold for March. I need a third and J would be fine however no guest seats are showing. I created a dummy booking and the seat map shows all unsold thus far. I'm not familiar with their current pattern for releasing seats, seemed predictable in the past. Is it possible that they will not release any or is it just a waiting game? I don't mind the wait but but I do need a seat. Expertflyer is showing zero availability on other dates I checked however the EY website will show availability. ??? I created an alert but I'm not sure I should trust it. I guess they only see what U.S. agents see. Thoughts?
#2992
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Looking for LAX to JRO on Etihad for January 23rd or January 24th biz seat for AA redemption. Anything?
#2993
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#2994
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Called NZ yesterday and put 2 JFK-AUH in First on hold for March. I need a third and J would be fine however no guest seats are showing. I created a dummy booking and the seat map shows all unsold thus far. I'm not familiar with their current pattern for releasing seats, seemed predictable in the past. Is it possible that they will not release any or is it just a waiting game? I don't mind the wait but but I do need a seat. Expertflyer is showing zero availability on other dates I checked however the EY website will show availability. ??? I created an alert but I'm not sure I should trust it. I guess they only see what U.S. agents see. Thoughts?
EF only performs award availability searches using a U.S. point-of-sale, which I believe explains why EF's availability matches what U.S.-based AA agent see. EF added other PoS locations for flight availability searches, but not for award availability. I suspect EF does not believe that award availability can vary based on point-of-sale.
#2995
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Hi everyone,
I want to book a business seat from SFO to BOM (or DEL) for Nov 7 2017, but I do not see any availability from SFO. I called US AA number, but they too could not find anything.
What are my options from SFO? Can I do SFO->LAX->AUH->BOM or SFO->DFW->AUH->BOM in same amount of points?
I am new at this and trying to learn.
I want to book a business seat from SFO to BOM (or DEL) for Nov 7 2017, but I do not see any availability from SFO. I called US AA number, but they too could not find anything.
What are my options from SFO? Can I do SFO->LAX->AUH->BOM or SFO->DFW->AUH->BOM in same amount of points?
I am new at this and trying to learn.
#2996
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Hi everyone,
I want to book a business seat from SFO to BOM (or DEL) for Nov 7 2017, but I do not see any availability from SFO. I called US AA number, but they too could not find anything.
What are my options from SFO? Can I do SFO->LAX->AUH->BOM or SFO->DFW->AUH->BOM in same amount of points?
I am new at this and trying to learn.
I want to book a business seat from SFO to BOM (or DEL) for Nov 7 2017, but I do not see any availability from SFO. I called US AA number, but they too could not find anything.
What are my options from SFO? Can I do SFO->LAX->AUH->BOM or SFO->DFW->AUH->BOM in same amount of points?
I am new at this and trying to learn.
#2997
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 59
I am sure some of the experts here will have insight on this:
I followed what was mentioned in the earlier part of this posting. Found a Etihad "Guest First" Seat on the Etihad flight from Bom - JFK for Jan 17th.
If I do a one way search from JFK-Bom for Jan 1st - it shows "No Availability" in Guest First.
However, if I do a round trip search from BOM - JFK - BOM leaving BOM on Nov 1st (Not the date I really want), and return Jan 1st (that means my JFK-BOM portion would be on Jan 1st - it shows availability in Guest First.
I called the Australia number and was able to grab the BOM - JFK on Jan 17th. But, they are not able to find the Jan 1st seat. I even called the NZ number and same response.
I just joined "Expert Flyer" and it shows no availability on Jan 1st from JFK-BOM.
What am I missing here or what am I doing wrong?
Any thoughts or ideas?
I followed what was mentioned in the earlier part of this posting. Found a Etihad "Guest First" Seat on the Etihad flight from Bom - JFK for Jan 17th.
If I do a one way search from JFK-Bom for Jan 1st - it shows "No Availability" in Guest First.
However, if I do a round trip search from BOM - JFK - BOM leaving BOM on Nov 1st (Not the date I really want), and return Jan 1st (that means my JFK-BOM portion would be on Jan 1st - it shows availability in Guest First.
I called the Australia number and was able to grab the BOM - JFK on Jan 17th. But, they are not able to find the Jan 1st seat. I even called the NZ number and same response.
I just joined "Expert Flyer" and it shows no availability on Jan 1st from JFK-BOM.
What am I missing here or what am I doing wrong?
Any thoughts or ideas?
#2998
Join Date: Jul 2001
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I struggle to see how an award seat would be available on 1/1. That is going to be the big day post xmasNew Yera.
I am sure some of the experts here will have insight on this:
I followed what was mentioned in the earlier part of this posting. Found a Etihad "Guest First" Seat on the Etihad flight from Bom - JFK for Jan 17th.
If I do a one way search from JFK-Bom for Jan 1st - it shows "No Availability" in Guest First.
However, if I do a round trip search from BOM - JFK - BOM leaving BOM on Nov 1st (Not the date I really want), and return Jan 1st (that means my JFK-BOM portion would be on Jan 1st - it shows availability in Guest First.
I called the Australia number and was able to grab the BOM - JFK on Jan 17th. But, they are not able to find the Jan 1st seat. I even called the NZ number and same response.
I just joined "Expert Flyer" and it shows no availability on Jan 1st from JFK-BOM.
What am I missing here or what am I doing wrong?
Any thoughts or ideas?
I followed what was mentioned in the earlier part of this posting. Found a Etihad "Guest First" Seat on the Etihad flight from Bom - JFK for Jan 17th.
If I do a one way search from JFK-Bom for Jan 1st - it shows "No Availability" in Guest First.
However, if I do a round trip search from BOM - JFK - BOM leaving BOM on Nov 1st (Not the date I really want), and return Jan 1st (that means my JFK-BOM portion would be on Jan 1st - it shows availability in Guest First.
I called the Australia number and was able to grab the BOM - JFK on Jan 17th. But, they are not able to find the Jan 1st seat. I even called the NZ number and same response.
I just joined "Expert Flyer" and it shows no availability on Jan 1st from JFK-BOM.
What am I missing here or what am I doing wrong?
Any thoughts or ideas?
#2999
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Yes, both of those alternate routings should be the same amount of points (US-India). You would just need to find the availability on each segment. I would use the EY website to search for LAX-BOM, DFW-BOM, IAD-BOM, JFK-BOM and same for DEL and see if you can find availability on any of those. Afterwards, if you do in fact find availability for your dates then you can go back and check the domestic AA availability to see if you can find a match. If you can't it may be worth just booking the domestic segment(s) separately as a paid ticket on AA (or any airline) and position to your award.
#3000
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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AA Award Cancelled Early by Etihad
Accounting for GST time, my AA hold was cancelled by Etihad 5 hours before the stated expiration time (as I found out when I called to book the award). My fault for waiting until the last minute, but interesting in that it did not return to inventory and has not 24 hrs later.
The US AAgent was able to rebook me one day later without issue which is encouraging (called Oz to book original hold). Not a complaint, just a cautionary tale to not fiddle-fart around as I did on a Etihad award hold.
The US AAgent was able to rebook me one day later without issue which is encouraging (called Oz to book original hold). Not a complaint, just a cautionary tale to not fiddle-fart around as I did on a Etihad award hold.