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-   -   Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Availability (2018 master thread) (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1883276-chances-upgrade-clearing-availability-2018-master-thread.html)

enviroian Dec 3, 2018 11:08 am
Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30494301)
Do complementary EXP upgrades come out of C bucket? So if C=1 and i book within the 5 day window i should get upgraded shortly after ticketing?
C is for SWU's.

dkc192 Dec 3, 2018 2:06 pm
Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30494301)
Do complementary EXP upgrades come out of C bucket? So if C=1 and i book within the 5 day window i should get upgraded shortly after ticketing?
No, EXP complimentary upgrades come out of R, which is invisible. C is used for instrument-supported upgrades, including SWUs and miles+copay upgrades.

stephem Dec 3, 2018 3:06 pm
Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 30494991)
No, EXP complimentary upgrades come out of R, which is invisible. C is used for instrument-supported upgrades, including SWUs and miles+copay upgrades.
Interesting, the upgrade came through right away and the C bucket ticked down from 1 to 0. I have bought many R class fares over the years, they are discounted business class although international. Are you saying that for domestic purposes the R bucket is something different?

dcfit Dec 3, 2018 4:53 pm
Fly 193
 
I have been waitlisted for flt 193 leaving 12/4 for a about a month or so. Got the alert from EF that there was C availability. Agent initially said I was still waitlisted, but I asked him to check C availability and he said he could clear my SWU.

Im still waitlisted for the flight back (126 HKG-DFW) which still has tons of inventory, so we will see what happens!

Looking forward to checking out the LAX Flagship First lounge tomorrow!

platbrownguy Dec 3, 2018 5:12 pm
Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30495185)


Interesting, the upgrade came through right away and the C bucket ticked down from 1 to 0. I have bought many R class fares over the years, they are discounted business class although international. Are you saying that for domestic purposes the R bucket is something different?
Yes, there's an invisible R for upgrades. Used to be X when "F" was full-fare two-cabin first.

It makes sense that you'd get the upgrade. In my experience, it's very often the case that if C>0 & you're within the upgrade window, then R>0. I will say that closer in, say within 24 hours of departure, I'll see C availability (say, J2C1) when it doesn't seem plausible that I'll clear the upgrade. In those cases, if it's a long enough flight, I may set a reminder for myself to check the upgrade list 4 hours out, and burn a BXP1 for a C seat if it looks like I won't clear.

enpremiere Dec 3, 2018 5:37 pm
Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30495185)


Interesting, the upgrade came through right away and the C bucket ticked down from 1 to 0. I have bought many R class fares over the years, they are discounted business class although international. Are you saying that for domestic purposes the R bucket is something different?
Haven't seen R buckets for revenue fares in quite some time - have you recently ticketed something in R for any travel?

enpremiere Dec 3, 2018 5:38 pm
Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 30495639)
Yes, there's an invisible R for upgrades.
It used to be that agents could search for it but I'm not sure if front-line agents can still do that via Qik.

Antarius Dec 3, 2018 8:59 pm
Eyeing DFW-LHR in Jan. Which flight do you think has the best shot of a SWU? AA 20, 80, 50 or 78?

All seem wide open now.

ComplexAnalysis Dec 3, 2018 9:29 pm
Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 30496256)
Eyeing DFW-LHR in Jan. Which flight do you think has the best shot of a SWU? AA 20, 80, 50 or 78?

All seem wide open now.
I would imagine AA20 should have the best odds by far: 77W has much more premium space compared to 772 and the mid-afternoon departure time is less business heavy.

Antarius Dec 3, 2018 9:33 pm
Originally Posted by ComplexAnalysis (Post 30496324)
I would imagine AA20 should have the best odds by far: 77W has much more premium space compared to 772 and the mid-afternoon departure time is less business heavy.
thanks.

Back when there were 3 flights, the earliest one (AA 50) seemed to be the hardest upgrade to clear. The night flight was easier IIRC.

stephem Dec 3, 2018 11:38 pm
Originally Posted by enpremiere (Post 30495722)
Haven't seen R buckets for revenue fares in quite some time - have you recently ticketed something in R for any travel?
it’s the second most expensive fare class under full J. In almost every market for international flights the AA fare hierarchy ia I, D, R, J. Most people only fly in I, for me our corporate rates give a healthy discount on R and J so i often fly those. Just do an EF search constrained to business class and AA and you see the hierarchy. Or if you dont have an eF subscription then search ITA with the restrictor F bc=r and you wil see them.

flyingeph12 Dec 4, 2018 1:41 am
Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30496609)


it’s the second most expensive fare class under full J. In almost every market for international flights the AA fare hierarchy ia I, D, R, J. Most people only fly in I, for me our corporate rates give a healthy discount on R and J so i often fly those. Just do an EF search constrained to business class and AA and you see the hierarchy. Or if you dont have an eF subscription then search ITA with the restrictor F bc=r and you wil see them.
There are no complimentary upgrades on “international” flights (except to Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America). But complimentary upgrades do in fact clear into R or X, depending on whether first class is sold as “first” or “business.” This is different from C, although sometimes the two inventories have the same availability (as appears to be the case in your case).

aacar Dec 4, 2018 6:10 am
Originally Posted by aacar (Post 30494171)
AA364 (DFW-SJC) yesterday, was 10 of 31 as EXP with ~$17K rolling EQDs.
#1 on the list was a CK (GA read out the names of the 3 CKs).
No one cleared.
On the other hand, last night's flights from SFO to ORD and DFW (on a 788) had 4 and 5 empty seats and no one on the upgrade list.

TSparky Dec 4, 2018 8:38 am
Sunday LAX-DFW on a 789 - I was 5 of 62 (27k EQD) and I don't think anyone cleared.
DFW-IND cleared at t-23, as usual.

enviroian Dec 4, 2018 8:47 am
Originally Posted by TSparky (Post 30497669)
DFW-IND cleared at t-23, as usual.
Dfw- indianapolis cleared at only T-23 on a Sunday no less!? A few years ago that would have easily cleared at T-100.

Times have changed!


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