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Originally Posted by DMPHL
(Post 30322031)
Time of request does not matter, unless you and another person with the same status and exact same rolling EQD are competing for a spot. Now, if you book the flight after the upgrade window starts, and you might have been upgraded at the window, or you book after all released R space is filled, then yea the time might matter. But in normal circumstances, time of request in no way matters above status at any point.
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Originally Posted by BLazarus22
(Post 30322088)
What if you book with $15K rolling EQD but at departure you have $5K rolling? Do you still qualify at the original value?
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This may be covered elsewhere, and if so, apologies. C4 for my flight Friday (so <100 hours out) per EF. I’m still listed as “upgrade requested”. I called EXP desk and was told it’s not about whether C fare is available. Is that correct? |
Originally Posted by tismfu
(Post 30324167)
This may be covered elsewhere, and if so, apologies. C4 for my flight Friday (so <100 hours out) per EF. I’m still listed as “upgrade requested”. I called EXP desk and was told it’s not about whether C fare is available. Is that correct? Complimentary domestic sticker upgrades pull from different inventory (R), this clearing has no correlation with C space being available. So the agent was correct. But SWUs and miles/copay pull from C, if you're waitlisted for a SWU and see C space open, definitely HUCA. |
Originally Posted by tismfu
(Post 30324167)
This may be covered elsewhere, and if so, apologies. C4 for my flight Friday (so <100 hours out) per EF. I’m still listed as “upgrade requested”. I called EXP desk and was told it’s not about whether C fare is available. Is that correct? |
Thank you! Very helpful. |
Hoping for some color here. EXP on a Premium Economy seat, trying to use SWU to get to business. Looked on Monday, and there were 5 first class seats, and 4 business class seats available. Looked yesterday and there was only 1 first class seat left, and only 2 business class left.
Is it correct to assume 4 of those 1st class were taken by Business people upgrades? I did notice that as that happened during the week, more business class seats opened up. However, I'm a bit surprised my upgrade didn't clear, as that would have meant at 1 point there were approximately 8-9 business class seats available. I can't imagine for this 1 flight there were 7 people with higher status/EQD than me, so is it safe to assume these were just last minute business class seat purchases? Or possible someone from another business class flight changed to this one? Only 2 business class seats left, so I'm thinking I have ZERO chance AGAIN :-/ |
Originally Posted by shadymg
(Post 30330769)
Hoping for some color here. EXP on a Premium Economy seat, trying to use SWU to get to business. Looked on Monday, and there were 5 first class seats, and 4 business class seats available. Looked yesterday and there was only 1 first class seat left, and only 2 business class left.
Is it correct to assume 4 of those 1st class were taken by Business people upgrades? I did notice that as that happened during the week, more business class seats opened up. However, I'm a bit surprised my upgrade didn't clear, as that would have meant at 1 point there were approximately 8-9 business class seats available. I can't imagine for this 1 flight there were 7 people with higher status/EQD than me, so is it safe to assume these were just last minute business class seat purchases? Or possible someone from another business class flight changed to this one? Only 2 business class seats left, so I'm thinking I have ZERO chance AGAIN :-/ What route are you flying? If it's any of the South American routes that uses the 77W (DFW-GRU, JFK-GRU, MIA-GRU, MIA-EZE), I'd be surprised these days for an EXP not to clear a SWU, but still possible. If it's DFW/LAX/JFK/MIA-LHR, it's entirely possible that those seats are all purchased, or that only a couple SWUs clear, and that J and F tickets get purchased close in. Same with DFW-HKG. LAX-HKG should be easier, but depends on the day of the week/season/is still unpredictable. |
DFW-OAK and back this week no upgrade for me. F cabin was zeroed out for days. I have to tell myself before this EQD ranking I would have cleared F days out. Generally speaking is AA selling cheaper F fares? FWIW the folks sitting down weren't biz folks at all and they all looked like they fly NK once a year to visit grandma in Melbourne Beach.
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Originally Posted by DMPHL
(Post 30330812)
It's possible that all of them were upgrades, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily likely that they were. After that, even if they were upgrades, that doesn't mean that the available seats would be released to C inventory for SWU. They may have been purchased with cash, or may have been available to book with miles.
What route are you flying? If it's any of the South American routes that uses the 77W (DFW-GRU, JFK-GRU, MIA-GRU, MIA-EZE), I'd be surprised these days for an EXP not to clear a SWU, but still possible. If it's DFW/LAX/JFK/MIA-LHR, it's entirely possible that those seats are all purchased, or that only a couple SWUs clear, and that J and F tickets get purchased close in. Same with DFW-HKG. LAX-HKG should be easier, but depends on the day of the week/season/is still unpredictable. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 30330887)
WIW the folks sitting down weren't biz folks at all and they all looked like they fly NK once a year to visit grandma in Melbourne Beach.
And if you could, guess what - folks flying to see family in Florida have as much right to be on the plane as you do. |
Originally Posted by bse118
(Post 30330920)
:td: Seriously? Because you can tell what a passenger does or what they paid by how they look.
And if you could, guess what - folks flying to see family in Florida have as much right to be on the plane as you do. It was a joke and I thought it to be funny. A little serious are we? :rolleyes: |
Cleared LAX-AKL AA83 as ExP T-45 Days with Miles & $$. But didn't clear the MIA-LAX segment.... 20+ seats available. Looks like return SYD-LAX only has 3 seats available so if anything happens, it'll be at the airport......
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Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 30330887)
DFW-OAK and back this week no upgrade for me. F cabin was zeroed out for days. I have to tell myself before this EQD ranking I would have cleared F days out. Generally speaking is AA selling cheaper F fares? FWIW the folks sitting down weren't biz folks at all and they all looked like they fly NK once a year to visit grandma in Melbourne Beach.
Originally Posted by bse118
(Post 30330920)
:td: Seriously? Because you can tell what a passenger does or what they paid by how they look.
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Originally Posted by HLCinCOU
(Post 30322153)
I don't have a source for it immediately handy, but my understanding is the EQD is calculated at every sweep. So if they open up C space a month in advance like they did for my LAX-AKL, they'll calculate it for the twelve months up to that moment. Then if they open up some more right before flight time, they'll do it again and your EQD number and thus place in line might well be significantly different.
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