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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
I was at JFK a couple of days ago and got a real chuckle. I don't know if it was an AA employee van or some other AA van, but it was all branded on the outside and said something like from NYC you can go anywhere in the world. I'm forgetting the actual wording but that was the gist......I guess they must mean if you want to not fly on AA proper.
Sure it didn't say "via LHR or LAX"?
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
I was at JFK a couple of days ago and got a real chuckle. I don't know if it was an AA employee van or some other AA van, but it was all branded on the outside and said something like from NYC you can go anywhere in the world. I'm forgetting the actual wording but that was the gist......I guess they must mean if you want to not fly on AA proper.
Maybe AA bought the van from Delta, covered Delta's livery with its own, but forgot to cover up the "go anywhere in the world"
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by ElCaminoReal
Sure it didn't say "via LHR or LAX"?
or join us on our always on-time flights via PHL
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Old Jul 27, 2018 | 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
AA lost a major corporate (maybe more?) contract to DL on this route because it's employees were sick of flying the ancient and often delayed/MX 763 on AA. That's one of the main reasons they left the market.
The reliability of AA's 767 JFK-ZRH-JFK was derisory. It became a running joke for us based in ZRH that taking AA would likely result in a 5 hour delay, and it frequently did.
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 11:32 am
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JFK to DEN dropped. Not surprising as yields seemed very low, and F often went out with empty seats. Still amazing though that AA wont offer non-stop service to DEN from one or their hubs. I wonder if they add it out of LGA instead...
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 11:52 am
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I loved that JFK-DEN flight, and have taken it numerous times, but upgraded at 100 hours every time flew solo, never missed a companion upgrade when traveling with someone, and usually had at least 3-4 first class seats empty ... in other words, polar opposite of every other 3+ hour flight out of JFK or LGA in recent years.
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
JFK to DEN dropped. Not surprising as yields seemed very low, and F often went out with empty seats. Still amazing though that AA wont offer non-stop service to DEN from one or their hubs. I wonder if they add it out of LGA instead...
I dont know DEN well, but it seems like a bit of a tough market for airlines other than UA, WN, and F9, especially on a hub-to-hub market for UA (NYC-DEN). There are lots of complaints in the AS forum that AS cant even maintain service there from PDX or SFO, which are of course much shorter flights than NYC and arguably more important hubs to AS than NYC is to AA (and which lack geographically logical online connecting options, whereas NYC-ORD/DFW-DEN are pretty direct). Going against the bloodbath of local airlines at DEN seems like a tall order. And AA has long operated NYC-EGE etc flights for the skiing crowd.
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 2:34 pm
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You will continue to see AA experiment at JFK (outside of the transcons) until they are able to find a strategy that works for them given their limited slots.

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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 10:38 am
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AA cuts DUB and EDI from JFK (also cut PAP). Cut Denver a few weeks ago. Added another DFW frequency. It looks like JFK customers will be asked to connect to PHL, CLT and DFW to do a lot of basic domestic and international flying.

Honestly it doesnt seem like any TATL route is safe. Kind of amazing as its not like the other airlines/alliances are doing a great job to Europe (I guess with the possible exception of United). I just had a decidedly mediocre Air France trip to
Paris, AA can and likely does better with a better lounge and equivalent onboard product.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by only1percent
I loved that JFK-DEN flight, and have taken it numerous times, but upgraded at 100 hours every time flew solo, never missed a companion upgrade when traveling with someone, and usually had at least 3-4 first class seats empty ... in other words, polar opposite of every other 3+ hour flight out of JFK or LGA in recent years.
Basically, the times were not desirable east bound. So, it appears that the revenue manager's flyer ended up out of bounds.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 1:31 pm
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I've now read twice from credible sources that AA will be experimenting with routes from JFK moving forward........hmmmmmmm. If they can't make ZRH/EDI/DUB work, how will new random routes ex-JFK do any better?
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981
I've now read twice from credible sources that AA will be experimenting with routes from JFK moving forward........hmmmmmmm. If they can't make ZRH/EDI/DUB work, how will new random routes ex-JFK do any better?
I am guessing they re-focus their targets on proven leisure destinations (CDG, MXP for instance) instead of business travelers, but ignore the fact that business travelers travel for leisure as well...
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by andersonCooper
I am guessing they re-focus their targets on proven leisure destinations (CDG, MXP for instance) instead of business travelers, but ignore the fact that business travelers travel for leisure as well...
That goes against what was mentioned in the video accompanying today's press release. JFK was briefly mentioned and AA's goal is to focus on business markets from JFK.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 4:40 pm
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Wow! They are cutting LAX-YYZ flights? Smh.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by cedric
That goes against what was mentioned in the video accompanying today's press release. JFK was briefly mentioned and AA's goal is to focus on business markets from JFK.
I can't buy too much in that statement since they pulled ZRH, FRA and now DUB out. Business market to LAX/SFO maybe.

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