May 8, 2016, 11:02 pm
MIA-LAX 77W / 777-300ER rotation - and service etc. discussion
Feb 22, 2017, 4:19 pm
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Did you board from Gate 41? IMHO boarding for this flight is one of the most insane boarding experiences ever. The gate is consistently a madhouse and it seems like over 100 people line up right when they call for the eight-seat F cabin. If you're in Y and you don't line up right when they call (i.e. wait for them to call EXP and the like), good luck finding any baggage storage for your luggage within 10 rows of your seat.
If you're in J/F, best to wait in the lounge for as long as possible.
If you're in J/F, best to wait in the lounge for as long as possible.
Jul 19, 2017, 5:30 pm
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Looks like the 777-300 off the schedule LAX-MIA. However, it is still operating MIA-LAX. I have a booking late October this impacts where I lost it one way.
Even before the 777-300 was in service, it seems AA has always had at least one premium aircraft flying this route. I've taken both the 777-200 and 767 at various times. Hopefully this changes. Otherwise I suppose Jet Blue into FLL is a better option heading east.
Even before the 777-300 was in service, it seems AA has always had at least one premium aircraft flying this route. I've taken both the 777-200 and 767 at various times. Hopefully this changes. Otherwise I suppose Jet Blue into FLL is a better option heading east.
Jul 19, 2017, 5:52 pm
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Looks like the 777-300 off the schedule LAX-MIA. However, it is still operating MIA-LAX. I have a booking late October this impacts where I lost it one way.
Even before the 777-300 was in service, it seems AA has always had at least one premium aircraft flying this route. I've taken both the 777-200 and 767 at various times. Hopefully this changes. Otherwise I suppose Jet Blue into FLL is a better option heading east.
Even before the 777-300 was in service, it seems AA has always had at least one premium aircraft flying this route. I've taken both the 777-200 and 767 at various times. Hopefully this changes. Otherwise I suppose Jet Blue into FLL is a better option heading east.
Jul 19, 2017, 6:22 pm
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Jul 19, 2017, 6:24 pm
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Jul 19, 2017, 6:40 pm
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Jul 20, 2017, 3:45 am
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77W is still in the schedule.
However, I've simply switched all my flying to Mint. I absolutely hate Fll, it's a garbage dump, but AA has the worst domestic airline product these days. Maybe they'll fix it one day.
I do think when 777 work is done we'll see the 2-class 777s return to the route. Or maybe the new lie flat 757s, which will primarily be based out of Miami, will see transcontinental duty from Miami.
However, I've simply switched all my flying to Mint. I absolutely hate Fll, it's a garbage dump, but AA has the worst domestic airline product these days. Maybe they'll fix it one day.
I do think when 777 work is done we'll see the 2-class 777s return to the route. Or maybe the new lie flat 757s, which will primarily be based out of Miami, will see transcontinental duty from Miami.
Jul 20, 2017, 11:20 am
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Jul 20, 2017, 6:15 pm
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The plane is absolutely not flown on the route for maintenance purposes. It is routed XXX-MIA-LAX-HKG/SYD.
Jul 20, 2017, 9:38 pm
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"C" Checks
The "C" check is the most thorough type of maintenance work performed by American. The airframe - virtually the entire aircraft - goes through an exhaustive series of checks, inspections and overhaul work. It is performed at either of American’s heavy maintenance and engineering centers in Tulsa, Oklahoma or the Alliance Maintenance Facility in Fort Worth, Texas. There are different levels of "C" checks depending on the type of aircraft.
These include:
Narrowbody "C" Checks
American does two types of "C" checks on its narrowbody planes. The first is a "Light C" check, which occurs approximately every 15 - 18 months. It requires approximately 2,100 man-hours and three days to accomplish. Every fourth "Light C" check becomes a "Heavy C" check. This check requires 20,000 - 30,000 man-hours and takes from three to five weeks to accomplish.
Widebody "C" Checks
Because of the complexity of widebody aircraft, all "C" checks are "Heavy C" checks. The complete airframe inspection and service is done every 24 - 30 months. It takes approximately 10,000 man-hours and from two to four weeks to accomplish a widebody "C" check.
The "C" check is the most thorough type of maintenance work performed by American. The airframe - virtually the entire aircraft - goes through an exhaustive series of checks, inspections and overhaul work. It is performed at either of American’s heavy maintenance and engineering centers in Tulsa, Oklahoma or the Alliance Maintenance Facility in Fort Worth, Texas. There are different levels of "C" checks depending on the type of aircraft.
These include:
Narrowbody "C" Checks
American does two types of "C" checks on its narrowbody planes. The first is a "Light C" check, which occurs approximately every 15 - 18 months. It requires approximately 2,100 man-hours and three days to accomplish. Every fourth "Light C" check becomes a "Heavy C" check. This check requires 20,000 - 30,000 man-hours and takes from three to five weeks to accomplish.
Widebody "C" Checks
Because of the complexity of widebody aircraft, all "C" checks are "Heavy C" checks. The complete airframe inspection and service is done every 24 - 30 months. It takes approximately 10,000 man-hours and from two to four weeks to accomplish a widebody "C" check.
One thing we know has changed - heavy maintenance of widebody planes now occurs at HKG, not Alliance in Fort Worth.
Jul 21, 2017, 1:49 am
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For many years, aa.com contained this language about heavy airframe maintenance:
Narrowbody planes got a Heavy C check (essentially what other airlines call a D check) every five years or so, while widebodies got a Heavy C check about every 2 to 2.5 years. Unless AA's maintenance protocols have changed, the oldest 77Ws should be coming up on their second Heavy C checks.
One thing we know has changed - heavy maintenance of widebody planes now occurs at HKG, not Alliance in Fort Worth.
Narrowbody planes got a Heavy C check (essentially what other airlines call a D check) every five years or so, while widebodies got a Heavy C check about every 2 to 2.5 years. Unless AA's maintenance protocols have changed, the oldest 77Ws should be coming up on their second Heavy C checks.
One thing we know has changed - heavy maintenance of widebody planes now occurs at HKG, not Alliance in Fort Worth.
77W is still in the schedule.
However, I've simply switched all my flying to Mint. I absolutely hate Fll, it's a garbage dump, but AA has the worst domestic airline product these days. Maybe they'll fix it one day.
I do think when 777 work is done we'll see the 2-class 777s return to the route. Or maybe the new lie flat 757s, which will primarily be based out of Miami, will see transcontinental duty from Miami.
However, I've simply switched all my flying to Mint. I absolutely hate Fll, it's a garbage dump, but AA has the worst domestic airline product these days. Maybe they'll fix it one day.
I do think when 777 work is done we'll see the 2-class 777s return to the route. Or maybe the new lie flat 757s, which will primarily be based out of Miami, will see transcontinental duty from Miami.