No int'l. AA saaver or SWU availability 11+ days out – Being resolved? (Nov 2014)
Nov 30, 2014, 10:40 am
#106
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and - on every airline. A few exceptions like partners, CX or EY - although
the new trend is clear - AA agents have a lot of trouble "seeing" partners' seats.
The last existing option - book awards for tomorrow or after tomorrow
Nov 30, 2014, 11:10 am
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I think this "strategy" has been pretty much non-existing for a while now
and - on every airline. A few exceptions like partners, CX or EY - although
the new trend is clear - AA agents have a lot of trouble "seeing" partners' seats.
The last existing option - book awards for tomorrow or after tomorrow
and - on every airline. A few exceptions like partners, CX or EY - although
the new trend is clear - AA agents have a lot of trouble "seeing" partners' seats.
The last existing option - book awards for tomorrow or after tomorrow
AA went on record with the blogger linked to early in the thread (who's very credible and I feel quite confident would not post/tweet something as "direct from AA" that wasn't) that this situation was a glitch caused by huge schedule change.
Again, the trend/discussion of the general trend/issue/problem of severely limited milesAAver availability (and/or partner availability) is a separate discussion.
Nov 30, 2014, 11:14 am
#108
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Have Milesaver Awards Become a Thing of the Past?
I'm trying to book biz tix from NYC to Paris and back from London to NYC for June 2015 departure (7 months away). AA has a few non-stops each way on the dates I need, but won't make them available unless I get Anytime awards. Milesaver awards are available, but for connecting flights with huge layovers. I've been checking for months, and still nothing.
Any suggestions/observations?
Any suggestions/observations?
Nov 30, 2014, 11:32 am
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I'm not sure there is a need for this thread. You answer your own question in the short post - milesaver awards are available but for connecting flights with huge layovers. Summer season is busy season, so why would AA give away seats on non-stop flights so far in advance when it can probably sell them? I would pick a connecting itinerary and keep checking until a seat on the non-stop becomes available and then you can change free of charge (if you're an elite). Thus, to answer your rhetorical question - NO, milesaver awards have NOT become a thing of the past.
Nov 30, 2014, 11:34 am
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But seeing NOTHING for months on many routes easily accessible routes is different. Lets hope the glitch is resolved soon.
Nov 30, 2014, 3:00 pm
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This is not a "glitch". It doesn't take a week to fix an oops. I'm going with the permanent change/devaluation to the aadvantage program. I will now have to start using a shorter window of time for advance vacation planning. It looks like 3 1/2 to 4 months is the new 330 days.
Nov 30, 2014, 3:06 pm
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Hasn't it now been a week since the big schedule load and subsequent "glitch"? Hasn't it been a week since AA talked to the blogger about things getting back to normal?
This is not a "glitch". It doesn't take a week to fix an oops. I'm going with the permanent change/devaluation to the aadvantage program. I will now have to start using a shorter window of time for advance vacation planning. It looks like 3 1/2 to 4 months is the new 330 days.
This is not a "glitch". It doesn't take a week to fix an oops. I'm going with the permanent change/devaluation to the aadvantage program. I will now have to start using a shorter window of time for advance vacation planning. It looks like 3 1/2 to 4 months is the new 330 days.
Nov 30, 2014, 3:10 pm
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From an accounting standpoint, I don't see how a stealth devaluation on their own metal helps them. The miles still sit on their books as a liability, and if you make it impossible to redeem, they'll sit that way. Would seem to make sense to devalue them while still making it impossible to get them off the books.
On the other hand, maybe they figure everyone will still redeem and just pay up for YQ on JV partners, which benefits AA too.
On the other hand, maybe they figure everyone will still redeem and just pay up for YQ on JV partners, which benefits AA too.
Nov 30, 2014, 3:20 pm
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Jon, since you seem to have some inside info, is this another way of saying "ding,ding, ding, we have a winner"?
I'm hoping I can still use AA points for CX awards 330 days in advance.
As long as CX and JL don't make this same timing change I can still travel to Asia, my number one destination of choice. I'll try to use up my AA miles an 2 CX or JL F trips, empty the aadvantage account, then say sayonara to AA for good. Hello UA and partners where you can book your partner awards yourself online without having to call in.
I'm hoping I can still use AA points for CX awards 330 days in advance.
As long as CX and JL don't make this same timing change I can still travel to Asia, my number one destination of choice. I'll try to use up my AA miles an 2 CX or JL F trips, empty the aadvantage account, then say sayonara to AA for good. Hello UA and partners where you can book your partner awards yourself online without having to call in.
Nov 30, 2014, 3:20 pm
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From an accounting standpoint, I don't see how a stealth devaluation on their own metal helps them. The miles still sit on their books as a liability, and if you make it impossible to redeem, they'll sit that way. Would seem to make sense to devalue them while still making it impossible to get them off the books.
On the other hand, maybe they figure everyone will still redeem and just pay up for YQ on JV partners, which benefits AA too.
On the other hand, maybe they figure everyone will still redeem and just pay up for YQ on JV partners, which benefits AA too.
Nov 30, 2014, 5:20 pm
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When EXPs were asked about the AAdvantage program we all asked that they keep allowing us to use the SWUS on any fare. We weren't smart enough to ask them to keep availability for us to use them.
Nov 30, 2014, 5:40 pm
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Plugged in 300k on the award map to go from ORD to anywhere in Europe next September and nothing available in J on up during the week I can travel. Getting real close to pulling the trigger on a cheap J fare on EI and telling AA to go to hell on requalifying next year. May find a CX flight to blow my miles on, instead.