ARCHIVE: oneworld / Explorer Awards Using AA Miles info
Jun 22, 2010, 2:19 pm
#1846
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The asterisk probably means it is an AY codeshare operated by Rossiya, which would work for a paid fare, but not an award trip, as far as I know.
This question will be merged into the active oneworld awards thread.
This question will be merged into the active oneworld awards thread.
Jun 22, 2010, 8:19 pm
#1847
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PandaPerth...you are fabulous! ^ I have to look up all these airport codes & make a route map, but this looks doable at least...even if a little wacky! I've never flown to Asia...only had the muster to go to Europe and back a few times. I know I can do something like this solo, because when I was in college I went to 10 countries solo as a backpacker...and I ended up being the person to help others read maps, figure out currencies, etc. I'm up for an adventure, that's for sure! Now...how to save the necessary miles...and money! 
Again, thank you for your thought process & the time you've given me. I hope I can return the favor one day in my own humble way. You are truly a :-: and I wish you all happiness & well-being life can afford!/Carol
Again, thank you for your thought process & the time you've given me. I hope I can return the favor one day in my own humble way. You are truly a :-: and I wish you all happiness & well-being life can afford!/CarolWelcome to FT CarolBarrel
At first glance, looks like it could be done - with some tweaking.
Here's a preliminary routing: MIA-LIM-SCL-GIG-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM-HKG-BKK-NRT-SYD-AKL-SCL-MIA
Some points:
At first glance, looks like it could be done - with some tweaking.
Here's a preliminary routing: MIA-LIM-SCL-GIG-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM-HKG-BKK-NRT-SYD-AKL-SCL-MIA
Some points:
- on a OW award ticket, only OW airlines can be used (no other 'partner' airlines allowed)
- No OW service LIM-RIO - so have to route LIM-SCL-GIG (only OW flights into RIO are the SCL-GIG and the GIG-LHR flights)
- No OW service RIO-CPT - in fact no OW service Sth America to Africa! So have to route GIG-LHR-CPT which means you get to see London too
- or GIG-MAD-JNB if you prefer Spain over England - No OW service CPT-KTM, so have to route CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM
- No OW service KTM-BKK, so have to route KTM-HKG-BKK
- No OW service BKK-HKT (Phuket);there is a OW flight HKT-HKG. However you are allowed a max of 16 segments, so my suggestion is to take a side-trip from BKK to HKT as you need the segments later
- Since you'll have already been to HKG twice on the above itinerary, suggest you fly BKK-NRT direct
- Note that the above itinerary has you going to Santiago, Chile twice - but OW award rules only allow one stopover at each place - one of the visits would have to be a transit; ditto for your two visits to HKG
- all up 15 segments, and just over 49,000 miles - so doable on a OW
Distance Zone 9 award
Jun 22, 2010, 11:36 pm
#1848
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PandaPerth...you are fabulous! ^ I have to look up all these airport codes & make a route map, but this looks doable at least...even if a little wacky! I've never flown to Asia...only had the muster to go to Europe and back a few times. I know I can do something like this solo, because when I was in college I went to 10 countries solo as a backpacker...and I ended up being the person to help others read maps, figure out currencies, etc. I'm up for an adventure, that's for sure! Now...how to save the necessary miles...and money! Again, thank you for your thought process & the time you've given me. I hope I can return the favor one day in my own humble way. You are truly a :-: and I wish you all happiness & well-being life can afford!/Carol
Again, thank you for your thought process & the time you've given me. I hope I can return the favor one day in my own humble way. You are truly a :-: and I wish you all happiness & well-being life can afford!/CarolMust see how to work in Southern Chile or Argentina...
(mortified by magic111's sarky comment
)
Jun 24, 2010, 11:17 am
#1849
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I just flew air lingus, after an AA flight from JFK to LHR, on my boarding pass to Cork, my AAdvantage number was on it and the gate agent said yes I'd be earning miles for my AAdvantage account. Is this true? I had no idea Air Lingus worked with One World....is this just a glitch?
Jun 24, 2010, 11:31 am
#1850
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Fly MX or BA?
I have this OW Business Award (Zone 7: 25K miles) itinerary in mind (AA-LA/LP-MX) but have read mixed reviews about Mexicana:
pdx-xdfw-xmia-lim-cuz-xlim-(Direct flight!)ipc-ppt-scl-xmex-xdfw-pdx
Should I consider the following (AA-LA/LP-BA) instead:
pdx-xdfw-xmia-lim-cuz-xlim-ipc-ppt-scl-xeze-xgru-xdfw-pdx
Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!
pdx-xdfw-xmia-lim-cuz-xlim-(Direct flight!)ipc-ppt-scl-xmex-xdfw-pdx
Should I consider the following (AA-LA/LP-BA) instead:
pdx-xdfw-xmia-lim-cuz-xlim-ipc-ppt-scl-xeze-xgru-xdfw-pdx
Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!
Jun 24, 2010, 11:32 am
#1851
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I just flew air lingus, after an AA flight from JFK to LHR, on my boarding pass to Cork, my AAdvantage number was on it and the gate agent said yes I'd be earning miles for my AAdvantage account. Is this true? I had no idea Air Lingus worked with One World....is this just a glitch?
I'm sure someone will correct me soon if I'm wrong.
Jun 24, 2010, 11:32 am
#1852
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I just flew air lingus, after an AA flight from JFK to LHR, on my boarding pass to Cork, my AAdvantage number was on it and the gate agent said yes I'd be earning miles for my AAdvantage account. Is this true? I had no idea Air Lingus worked with One World....is this just a glitch?
Jun 27, 2010, 2:11 pm
#1853
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When ticketing a oneworld award for an RTW trip, is it necessary to provide all the dates and flights at the time of booking, or just the routing and the start date? I was under the impression that this (the latter) was the case for the oneworld Explorer, but it may be different when using miles. I was told yesterday by an AAgent that I must wait and book dates and times for all my flights at one time. Is this true?
If it is necessary to book all flights/dates at once, does this mean I have no choice but to wait until all the flights on my itinerary are available? This seems a bit odd, because over a long RTW trip (mine would likely be greater than 4 months), it would be incredibly difficult to find award inventories available for my earliest flights, because the date of departure would be about 7 months away (provided that seats become bookable about 330 days prior to departure). This could certainly lead to some issues (especially considering I'd be using QF in J class). Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Cameron
If it is necessary to book all flights/dates at once, does this mean I have no choice but to wait until all the flights on my itinerary are available? This seems a bit odd, because over a long RTW trip (mine would likely be greater than 4 months), it would be incredibly difficult to find award inventories available for my earliest flights, because the date of departure would be about 7 months away (provided that seats become bookable about 330 days prior to departure). This could certainly lead to some issues (especially considering I'd be using QF in J class). Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Cameron
Jun 27, 2010, 2:19 pm
#1854
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When ticketing a oneworld award for an RTW trip, is it necessary to provide all the dates and flights at the time of booking, or just the routing and the start date? I was under the impression that this (the latter) was the case for the oneworld Explorer, but it may be different when using miles. I was told yesterday by an AAgent that I must wait and book dates and times for all my flights at one time. Is this true?
If it is necessary to book all flights/dates at once, does this mean I have no choice but to wait until all the flights on my itinerary are available? This seems a bit odd, because over a long RTW trip (mine would likely be greater than 4 months), it would be incredibly difficult to find award inventories available for my earliest flights, because the date of departure would be about 7 months away (provided that seats become bookable about 330 days prior to departure). This could certainly lead to some issues (especially considering I'd be using QF in J class). Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Cameron
If it is necessary to book all flights/dates at once, does this mean I have no choice but to wait until all the flights on my itinerary are available? This seems a bit odd, because over a long RTW trip (mine would likely be greater than 4 months), it would be incredibly difficult to find award inventories available for my earliest flights, because the date of departure would be about 7 months away (provided that seats become bookable about 330 days prior to departure). This could certainly lead to some issues (especially considering I'd be using QF in J class). Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
Cheers,
Cameron
Yes, you have to book every flight with date and time on the OW award ticket - no open booking for routing only. However you are allowed to change the date, time and flight number of the SAME Carrier, SAME routing after ticketed, and even after travel started, provided of course there is inventory. You cannot even change to co-terminal as this would be considered as routing change.
BTW, OW is not a RTW award. It is an award based on distance traveled.
Please read the FIRST POST of this thread to get a good understanding of the rules so you would not waste your time trying for something impossible.
Jun 27, 2010, 3:06 pm
#1855
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The OW award rules are totally different from the revenue tickets. Dont even try to compare the 2, else you will be very confused.
Yes, you have to book every flight with date and time on the OW award ticket - no open booking for routing only. However you are allowed to change the date, time and flight number of the SAME Carrier, SAME routing after ticketed, and even after travel started, provided of course there is inventory. You cannot even change to co-terminal as this would be considered as routing change.
BTW, OW is not a RTW award. It is an award based on distance traveled.
Please read the FIRST POST of this thread to get a good understanding of the rules so you would not waste your time trying for something impossible.
Yes, you have to book every flight with date and time on the OW award ticket - no open booking for routing only. However you are allowed to change the date, time and flight number of the SAME Carrier, SAME routing after ticketed, and even after travel started, provided of course there is inventory. You cannot even change to co-terminal as this would be considered as routing change.
BTW, OW is not a RTW award. It is an award based on distance traveled.
Please read the FIRST POST of this thread to get a good understanding of the rules so you would not waste your time trying for something impossible.
Cheers,
Cameron
Jun 27, 2010, 4:38 pm
#1856
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Thanks for the reply, Happy. I am aware the OW isn't specifically an RTW award, but it is most commonly used for it. It makes sense that you have to have the entire award ticketed all together, for the reasons you mentioned regarding it being a mileage. This certainly is unfortunate, because it makes finding the seats for the trip more difficult.
Cheers,
Cameron
Cheers,
Cameron
The best value to use OW award wouldn't you believe it, is for an itinerary NA - Europe that may let you have quite a number of stopovers while still maintain the "zone" at the same level as a NA - Europe all airline award because Europe is such a compact continent.
Last year we used it for an itinerary strictly in the Pacific region - for just 15K extra miles (OW150C versus NA - South Pacific 135K in business class), we traveled 24K+ miles and were able to visit New Zealand, Australia, SE Asia, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan (including domestic Japan) and back to North America.
OW Award Chart:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/oneworld_awards.jsp
Jun 28, 2010, 2:28 am
#1857
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Actually a lot of folks do not use it for RTW trip but rather for a trip that involving many stopovers.
The best value to use OW award wouldn't you believe it, is for an itinerary NA - Europe that may let you have quite a number of stopovers while still maintain the "zone" at the same level as a NA - Europe all airline award because Europe is such a compact continent.
Last year we used it for an itinerary strictly in the Pacific region - for just 15K extra miles (OW150C versus NA - South Pacific 135K in business class), we traveled 24K+ miles and were able to visit New Zealand, Australia, SE Asia, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan (including domestic Japan) and back to North America.
OW Award Chart:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/oneworld_awards.jsp
The best value to use OW award wouldn't you believe it, is for an itinerary NA - Europe that may let you have quite a number of stopovers while still maintain the "zone" at the same level as a NA - Europe all airline award because Europe is such a compact continent.
Last year we used it for an itinerary strictly in the Pacific region - for just 15K extra miles (OW150C versus NA - South Pacific 135K in business class), we traveled 24K+ miles and were able to visit New Zealand, Australia, SE Asia, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan (including domestic Japan) and back to North America.
OW Award Chart:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/oneworld_awards.jsp
I tried to find information on the NA products but failed to find. Can you please direct me? Thanks.
Jun 28, 2010, 6:22 am
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NA=North America.
NA=North America.
Jul 4, 2010, 2:38 pm
#1859
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How can I find first class award availability for JL?
I have purchased both EF and KVS software, but am still not seeing it.
Please advise. Am looking at a OW330F award.
I have purchased both EF and KVS software, but am still not seeing it.
Please advise. Am looking at a OW330F award.
Jul 4, 2010, 5:04 pm
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