ARCHIVE: oneworld / Explorer Awards Using AA Miles info
May 27, 2010, 2:17 pm
#1816
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: LAX_AMS_MNL
Programs: AS MVP, AA EXP - 1MM, BAEC BRZ, BVY GLD, Hilton DIA, Hyatt GLB
Posts: 749
I've reserved:
IAD-DFW-NRT-HKG-MEL-xHKG-LHR-JFK-DCA
This puts me in the 25k-35k award category (F award 280k miles), but just over 25k, so I have the possibility to add flights to my trip without having to spend more miles. As far as I can tell from reading this thread, I can revise the end of my trip to add 2 more transatlantic crossings without spending more miles, e.g.:
IAD-DFW-NRT-HKG-MEL-xHKG-LHR-BOS-CDG-JFK
Is this correct? Thanks in advance.
IAD-DFW-NRT-HKG-MEL-xHKG-LHR-JFK-DCA
This puts me in the 25k-35k award category (F award 280k miles), but just over 25k, so I have the possibility to add flights to my trip without having to spend more miles. As far as I can tell from reading this thread, I can revise the end of my trip to add 2 more transatlantic crossings without spending more miles, e.g.:
IAD-DFW-NRT-HKG-MEL-xHKG-LHR-BOS-CDG-JFK
Is this correct? Thanks in advance.
Where you able to reserve most of this in F?
Somebody correct me if Im wrong, but there seems to be NO F SERVICE on most of your routings:
NRT-HKG-MEL-HKG. CX doesnt offer F to MEL. QF is downgrading F on most routes, don't know if you can still get it. LHR-BOS (I think this is on a 763) BOS-CDG (I think this is on a 757). CDG-JFK (I think this is on a 763).
Maybe you can save miles and go J award instead and or revise your routing.
May 27, 2010, 2:31 pm
#1817
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AA Plat, BA, DL MM, NH, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 62
Thanks for your reply and confirmation. In answer to your question, yes I have been able to book all the segments as far as JFK in F:
IAD-DFW AA F (domestic)
DFW-NRT AA F
NRT-HKG JL F (the morning JL flight offers F on this route on my travel date)
HKG-MEL-HKG QF F (day flight to MEL, overnight flight on return both F)
HKG-LHR CX F
LHR-JFK AA F
For the transatlantic legs I am going to add, I will relook at the routes and either find AA routes with F or use BA to Canada. Then I need to call AA.
Thanks again!
IAD-DFW AA F (domestic)
DFW-NRT AA F
NRT-HKG JL F (the morning JL flight offers F on this route on my travel date)
HKG-MEL-HKG QF F (day flight to MEL, overnight flight on return both F)
HKG-LHR CX F
LHR-JFK AA F
For the transatlantic legs I am going to add, I will relook at the routes and either find AA routes with F or use BA to Canada. Then I need to call AA.
Thanks again!
May 27, 2010, 9:23 pm
#1818
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AA Plat, BA, DL MM, NH, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 62
Well just to complete the story, I called AA and added JFK-MAD-MIA as the final legs (business as first not offered). So for no additional miles I was able to add another transatlantic round trip. This is a great award.
Jun 2, 2010, 9:23 pm
#1819
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Perth, Australia
Programs: Hilton Diamond, QFF WP, Velocity Gold
Posts: 647
Hey everybody,
First time booking a one world award on AA~
Looking to get in business: per-hkg-icn-ngo-kix-fuk-cts-hnd-kkj-nrt-hnl-syd-per
Been trying to look for availability, for CX flights on Asia miles and for JL flights on JLMB, but i'm not sure if these are accurate if I was to redeem on AA. Any advice on availability? I'd be booking this around 3 months out. And is KVS the best tool to look for availability?
Thanks all!
First time booking a one world award on AA~
Looking to get in business: per-hkg-icn-ngo-kix-fuk-cts-hnd-kkj-nrt-hnl-syd-per
Been trying to look for availability, for CX flights on Asia miles and for JL flights on JLMB, but i'm not sure if these are accurate if I was to redeem on AA. Any advice on availability? I'd be booking this around 3 months out. And is KVS the best tool to look for availability?
Thanks all!
Jun 2, 2010, 10:37 pm
#1820
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PIT/DFW/MEL; AA Exec. Platinum & 4MM, QF WP
Posts: 7,689
Hey everybody,
First time booking a one world award on AA~
Looking to get in business: per-hkg-icn-ngo-kix-fuk-cts-hnd-kkj-nrt-hnl-syd-per
Been trying to look for availability, for CX flights on Asia miles and for JL flights on JLMB, but i'm not sure if these are accurate if I was to redeem on AA. Any advice on availability? I'd be booking this around 3 months out. And is KVS the best tool to look for availability?
Thanks all!
First time booking a one world award on AA~
Looking to get in business: per-hkg-icn-ngo-kix-fuk-cts-hnd-kkj-nrt-hnl-syd-per
Been trying to look for availability, for CX flights on Asia miles and for JL flights on JLMB, but i'm not sure if these are accurate if I was to redeem on AA. Any advice on availability? I'd be booking this around 3 months out. And is KVS the best tool to look for availability?
Thanks all!
the trip would not be doable, however, with 2 stopovers at Tokyo. One pass through the city would have to be a connection instead, under the 6-hour rule.
Jun 3, 2010, 4:14 am
#1821
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Perth, Australia
Programs: Hilton Diamond, QFF WP, Velocity Gold
Posts: 647
Thanks a lot for that! Yup, one of the tokyo is for connection only.
JAL only seems to be able to see domestic flights that are 2 months ahead... is there another free tool which can give availability?
What do you think the likelyhood of that route in business being bookable?
Thanks again!
JAL only seems to be able to see domestic flights that are 2 months ahead... is there another free tool which can give availability?
What do you think the likelyhood of that route in business being bookable?
Thanks again!
Jun 3, 2010, 8:59 am
#1822
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,044
However, as long as you use AA miles, you cannot book domestic Japan sector which occurs further than 2 months from the date of booking.
Jun 3, 2010, 2:28 pm
#1823
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
You can check JAL domestic routes through BA Executive Club.
However, as long as you use AA miles, you cannot book domestic Japan sector which occurs further than 2 months from the date of booking.
However, as long as you use AA miles, you cannot book domestic Japan sector which occurs further than 2 months from the date of booking.
I had booked JL domestic segment 5 months out. You would not get seat assignment until 2 months out, but they were bookable when I did it in Dec 2008 for June 2009.
OTOH, is there flight between ICN and NGO?
Jun 3, 2010, 2:30 pm
#1824
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Thanks a lot for that! Yup, one of the tokyo is for connection only.
JAL only seems to be able to see domestic flights that are 2 months ahead... is there another free tool which can give availability?
What do you think the likelyhood of that route in business being bookable?
Thanks again!
JAL only seems to be able to see domestic flights that are 2 months ahead... is there another free tool which can give availability?
What do you think the likelyhood of that route in business being bookable?
Thanks again!
Jun 4, 2010, 2:49 am
#1825
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,044
According to AAdvantage website,
Legal:
All awards are for round-trip travel. Standard MileSAAverSM capacity controls and embargo dates apply. Award travel is not valid on codeshare flights and is not valid on British Airways nonstop transatlantic flights to/from the U.S. Awards wholly within Japan can only be booked within two months of the return flight. Certain restrictions apply on oneworld multi-carrier awards.
All awards are for round-trip travel. Standard MileSAAverSM capacity controls and embargo dates apply. Award travel is not valid on codeshare flights and is not valid on British Airways nonstop transatlantic flights to/from the U.S. Awards wholly within Japan can only be booked within two months of the return flight. Certain restrictions apply on oneworld multi-carrier awards.
Jun 4, 2010, 10:00 am
#1826
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Apple and Orange I would say.
Therefore such restriction does not apply and is irrelevant to what the OP wants to do, unless AA has changed the rules.
However I doubt that such rule change has occurred to OW award which usually is booked outside a 2 months window for majority of bookings.
Last edited by Happy; Jun 4, 2010 at 10:12 am
Jun 13, 2010, 6:37 pm
#1827
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Michigan
Programs: AA, BA, SPG, FFFWP
Posts: 171
changes on award ticker
Are the change fees to an award ticket basically the same as the fee for redepositing the miles and booking a new itinerary? I want to change the route and carrier for a December trip.
Jun 13, 2010, 10:51 pm
#1828
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Unlike AA or All Partner award, OneWorld award does not allow any change other than date and time once ticketed.
Jun 14, 2010, 6:57 pm
#1829
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Michigan
Programs: AA, BA, SPG, FFFWP
Posts: 171
Okay, what does AA allow, since my return trip one way booking was on AA miles-NRT-DFW-DTW on AA metal. My originating trip is on Cathay Pacific and I now want to return from Hong Kong instead of NRT. Do I have to redeposit my miles to AA and rebook, or can I just call AA and tell them I want to change the itinerary to a Oneworld carrier?
Hope this isn't the wrong forum for this question.
Hope this isn't the wrong forum for this question.
Jun 14, 2010, 7:18 pm
#1830
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Okay, what does AA allow, since my return trip one way booking was on AA miles-NRT-DFW-DTW on AA metal. My originating trip is on Cathay Pacific and I now want to return from Hong Kong instead of NRT. Do I have to redeposit my miles to AA and rebook, or can I just call AA and tell them I want to change the itinerary to a Oneworld carrier?
Hope this isn't the wrong forum for this question.
Hope this isn't the wrong forum for this question.
Yes it is in the wrong thread if your award is a partner award. See the thread title.
But to address your question, you would have to pay $150 change fee for that change because you change the destination from NRT to HKG as well as carrier from AA to CX. Just call AA to check if there is award seat on CX for you to change to.
Last edited by Happy; Jun 14, 2010 at 7:27 pm