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Jun 14, 2010, 8:52 pm

#1831

rrgg

Join Date: Dec 2004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy

Yes it is in the wrong thread if your award is a partner award. See the thread title.

... and see the first post in this thread. There's a description of the different types of awards to help understand how this works.

Jun 16, 2010, 3:32 pm

#1832

ebaniaga

Join Date: Jun 2010

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Study Abroad Travel

Hey all,

I had a question about oneworld Awards. So I'm going to be doing a split year abroad, first semester in Australia and second semester in London. I currently live in Hawaii and I was wondering if it the possible routing would be allowed?

HNL > SYD > OGG (where I would buy my ticket to fly back to HNL for winterbreak) > LAX > LHR > DFW > HNL

The only problem I seem to come against is finding a flight from SYD to OGG, if one exists. Other than that, will this be able to qualify under the requirements for a oneworld award?

Jun 16, 2010, 4:23 pm

#1833

Happy

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Hey ebaniaga,

Have you studied the rules laid out in the First Page of this thread?

Jun 16, 2010, 7:22 pm

#1834

martin33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaniaga

oneworld awards charge by total distance flown, not destination, so it is difficult to break their routing rules. Nevertheless, this trip would do it in two ways:

1. SYD-OGG would require a connection at HNL, and no connections through the origin city are allowed.

2. oneworld awards require using at least 2 oneworld partners other than AA. LHR-DFW or LAX-LHR would have to route via Canada and cross the Atlantic on BA, or go to/from LHR via MAD and pick up IB.

Jun 20, 2010, 9:36 pm

#1835

CarolBarrel

Join Date: Jun 2010

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Is this possible?

This is my fantasy itinerary, but I'm clueless how to figure out which partner airlines would be best to use...and how many miles this would consume in total. Beginning and end point, Miami International. Anyone have any advice for me? Miami - Lima - Rio - Cape Town - Kathmandu, Nepal - Bangkok - Phuket - Hong Kong - Tokyo - Sydney, AU - Aukland, NZ - southernmost Chile or Argentina - Miami

Thanks in advance for any/all pointers!

Jun 21, 2010, 4:54 am

#1836

pandaperth

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolBarrel

Welcome to FT CarolBarrel

At first glance, looks like it could be done - with some tweaking.
Here's a preliminary routing: MIA-LIM-SCL-GIG-LHR-CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM-HKG-BKK-NRT-SYD-AKL-SCL-MIA

Some points:

on a OW award ticket, only OW airlines can be used (no other 'partner' airlines allowed)
No OW service LIM-RIO - so have to route LIM-SCL-GIG (only OW flights into RIO are the SCL-GIG and the GIG-LHR flights)
No OW service RIO-CPT - in fact no OW service Sth America to Africa! So have to route GIG-LHR-CPT which means you get to see London too - or GIG-MAD-JNB if you prefer Spain over England
No OW service CPT-KTM, so have to route CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM
No OW service KTM-BKK, so have to route KTM-HKG-BKK
No OW service BKK-HKT (Phuket);there is a OW flight HKT-HKG. However you are allowed a max of 16 segments, so my suggestion is to take a side-trip from BKK to HKT as you need the segments later
Since you'll have already been to HKG twice on the above itinerary, suggest you fly BKK-NRT direct
Note that the above itinerary has you going to Santiago, Chile twice - but OW award rules only allow one stopover at each place - one of the visits would have to be a transit; ditto for your two visits to HKG
all up 15 segments, and just over 49,000 miles - so doable on a OW
Distance Zone 9 award

Jun 22, 2010, 2:00 am

#1837

cutnana

Join Date: Aug 2009

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

on a OW award ticket, only OW airlines can be used (no other 'partner' airlines allowed)
No OW service LIM-RIO - so have to route LIM-SCL-GIG (only OW flights into RIO are the SCL-GIG and the GIG-LHR flights)
No OW service RIO-CPT - in fact no OW service Sth America to Africa! So have to route GIG-LHR-CPT which means you get to see London too - or GIG-MAD-JNB if you prefer Spain over England
No OW service CPT-KTM, so have to route CPT-JNB-HKG-KTM
No OW service KTM-BKK, so have to route KTM-HKG-BKK
No OW service BKK-HKT (Phuket);there is a OW flight HKT-HKG. However you are allowed a max of 16 segments, so my suggestion is to take a side-trip from BKK to HKT as you need the segments later
Since you'll have already been to HKG twice on the above itinerary, suggest you fly BKK-NRT direct
Note that the above itinerary has you going to Santiago, Chile twice - but OW award rules only allow one stopover at each place - one of the visits would have to be a transit; ditto for your two visits to HKG
all up 15 segments, and just over 49,000 miles - so doable on a OW
Distance Zone 9 award

WOW, you are amazing in taking the time to help!

Jun 22, 2010, 9:05 am

#1838

pandaperth

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cutnana

WOW, you are amazing in taking the time to help!

I know, I am amazing
but then I'm incredibly modest about it

Jun 22, 2010, 9:53 am

#1839

magic111

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

I know, I am amazing
but then I'm incredibly modest about it

But, you left out "southernmost Chile or Argentina "

All kidding aside, I would consider adding a "wholly within listed country award" from the all-airline award chart. SCL to southernmost Chile (PUQ = Punta Arenas) to accomplish this. Recently did the same in Australia to add in another destination for a just completed 16 segment oneworld award.

Last edited by magic111; Jun 22, 2010 at 9:59 am

Jun 22, 2010, 12:32 pm

#1840

Scooby3597

Join Date: Nov 2009

Location: Chicago

Posts: 67

OW130 Itinerary question

Hello,

I am planning my very first OW award and have a quick question.

The planned itinerary is ORD-PEK-KIX-HEL-LED-LHR-ORD.

When I look at the KIX-HEL-LED segment in the Oneworld Timetables, it shows KIX-HEL on Finnair, and then HEL-LED on Rossiya. Is Rossiya really part of OW?

The details are as follows:
KIX - HEL Finnair leave - 11:00AM Arrive - 3:10 PM flight - AY78
HEL - LED Rossiya leave - 7:40PM Arrive - 9:45 PM flight - AY6850*

There are no details on what the asterisk means. This is probably a very basic question, but I'd rather be safe than sorry...

Also feel free to add your comments on the overall itinerary.

Jun 22, 2010, 12:56 pm

#1841

LRD

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You are restricted to flight segments operated by oneworld airlines and their affiliates, so the Rossiya segment would not be permitted.

Jun 22, 2010, 1:02 pm

#1842

lerasp

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you can do HEL-LED by train. easy bus ride from airport directly to train station, nice train and you are there ine 4hrs.

Jun 22, 2010, 1:05 pm

#1843

Kiwi Flyer

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AAdvantage award rules apply, so moving to AA forum.

Kiwi Flyer
OW moderator

Jun 22, 2010, 1:23 pm

#1844

Gardyloo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LRD

You are restricted to flight segments operated by oneworld airlines and their affiliates, so the Rossiya segment would not be permitted.

AY flies its own metal to LED twice a day, but you'd have to wait overnight at HEL for the next AY-operated flight since the flights from Japan arrive after the 2nd AY flight of the day has departed.

Jun 22, 2010, 1:34 pm

#1845

Scooby3597

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Posts: 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardyloo

AY flies its own metal to LED twice a day, but you'd have to wait overnight at HEL for the next AY-operated flight since the flights from Japan arrive after the 2nd AY flight of the day has departed.

That's probably our best bet. After a flight from Japan, I'm not sure I would have the patience / energy for a bus ride to the train station, a 4 hour train ride, etc...

Glad I asked.^ Tons and tons of knowledge here...