2015 Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Upgrade Availability Discussion (consolidated)
#736
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: Alaska Airlines MVP Gold 75K, Virgin America Elevate Gold, American Airlines AAdvantage
Posts: 15
I have a paid Y ticket from SYD to LAX this April on a Sunday. What are the odds of me getting upgraded using SWU as an EXP? Considering that there are obviously no data points yet but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
#737
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCO
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Low would be my guess. Though maybe possible, it's difficult to say at this point.
#738
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 15
If your original seat in Y now shows vacant and you cannot access the seat map to select a J seat on AA.com call AA immediately! You need to sort this out and make sure that you've been upgraded and placed into a J seat. You definitely want to ensure you have a seat assignment.
However my reservation is not accessible from aa.com... Strange...
#739
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It sounds like you should be in good shape, I would still call when you have a minute and let them know you can't see it on AA.com just to be on the safe side.
#740
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 15
Seat assignment worked only on the app...
#742
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
If AA will clear any, you should get one.
Will AA sell all those J? The certainly have not release a single J award yet....
#743
Join Date: May 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: AA EXP, DL DM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,033
Along these lines, on which day would it be hardest to clear SYD-LAX (i.e., when is there the most paid J demand on average for SYD-LAX)? Looking at buying a one-way SYD-SFO for next March, and debating between nonstop SYD-SFO on QF in Y (booked as AA codeshare) vs. SYD-LAX-SFO on all-AA metal, in Y but with the hope of an SWU.
#744
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
Along these lines, on which day would it be hardest to clear SYD-LAX (i.e., when is there the most paid J demand on average for SYD-LAX)? Looking at buying a one-way SYD-SFO for next March, and debating between nonstop SYD-SFO on QF in Y (booked as AA codeshare) vs. SYD-LAX-SFO on all-AA metal, in Y but with the hope of an SWU.
2. Why One Way? Have you penciled all that out? A SYD-SFO-SYD round trip might me cheaper. (Or SYD-SFO and HNL-SYD retrurn?) Dunno, just speculating. Just a cheap return to allow the outbound to be a cheaper RT fare. You wouldnt fly it. (Also look at LAX with a cheap separate ticket LAX-SFO)
3. Look at the seat map? How many seats are taken in Y? How many in MCE? If you are the first, and your are an EXP, I personally believe the chances are decent.
4. On the LAX-USA you arrive same day. I think Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday are business heavy days. Just my guess. (the QF sub forum might have some input on this) Folks returning from a trip to SYD. Folks coming to USA for a business trip. But look at the Y and MCE load too. Thats your 'competition'.
GL
#745
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DCA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 947
This coming Tuesday, I'm flying DCA-1202-MIA-257-MEX. I'm EXPlat, and I was ticketed/requested on May 31.
Today, DCA-MIA cleared at the T-100 window, but MIA-MEX did not.
I offer this as a data point, but do you think MIA-MEX will clear? If so, when? T-24? T-4? T-1? At the gate?
Today, DCA-MIA cleared at the T-100 window, but MIA-MEX did not.
I offer this as a data point, but do you think MIA-MEX will clear? If so, when? T-24? T-4? T-1? At the gate?
#746
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This coming Tuesday, I'm flying DCA-1202-MIA-257-MEX. I'm EXPlat, and I was ticketed/requested on May 31.
Today, DCA-MIA cleared at the T-100 window, but MIA-MEX did not.
I offer this as a data point, but do you think MIA-MEX will clear? If so, when? T-24? T-4? T-1? At the gate?
Today, DCA-MIA cleared at the T-100 window, but MIA-MEX did not.
I offer this as a data point, but do you think MIA-MEX will clear? If so, when? T-24? T-4? T-1? At the gate?
#747
Join Date: May 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: AA EXP, DL DM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,033
1. You do realize this is new route- so there is ZERO history for any opinions. (mine included) We can use AA behaviour on other routes as a hint, but maybe they will be more Qantas like? QF sells a lot of biz seats. Will AA? Is there a pent up need for American hospitality headed to Oz??
2. Why One Way? Have you penciled all that out? A SYD-SFO-SYD round trip might me cheaper. (Or SYD-SFO and HNL-SYD retrurn?) Dunno, just speculating. Just a cheap return to allow the outbound to be a cheaper RT fare. You wouldnt fly it. (Also look at LAX with a cheap separate ticket LAX-SFO)
3. Look at the seat map? How many seats are taken in Y? How many in MCE? If you are the first, and your are an EXP, I personally believe the chances are decent.
4. On the LAX-USA you arrive same day. I think Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday are business heavy days. Just my guess. (the QF sub forum might have some input on this) Folks returning from a trip to SYD. Folks coming to USA for a business trip. But look at the Y and MCE load too. Thats your 'competition'.
GL
2. Why One Way? Have you penciled all that out? A SYD-SFO-SYD round trip might me cheaper. (Or SYD-SFO and HNL-SYD retrurn?) Dunno, just speculating. Just a cheap return to allow the outbound to be a cheaper RT fare. You wouldnt fly it. (Also look at LAX with a cheap separate ticket LAX-SFO)
3. Look at the seat map? How many seats are taken in Y? How many in MCE? If you are the first, and your are an EXP, I personally believe the chances are decent.
4. On the LAX-USA you arrive same day. I think Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday are business heavy days. Just my guess. (the QF sub forum might have some input on this) Folks returning from a trip to SYD. Folks coming to USA for a business trip. But look at the Y and MCE load too. Thats your 'competition'.
GL
2. SYD-SFO one way isn't too bad, $800 or so; no savings to be had from booking RT (granted RT is ~$1k, so cheaper on a per-segment basis, but seems to be nothing like US-Asia/Europe RT vs OW pricing tends to be). I grabbed two J saver seats on QF right when they were released for the outbound, hence needing a one-way of some sort to get home. If I want to use miles on the way home to sit up front, my only options are via ICN/PVG (no thanks)/TYO.
3. Seat map isn't too bad. 4 seats taken in J, 3 in MCE (but why are 20ABC/21DEGH/29DEGH/30AC/30JL blocked?)
4. Makes sense! I guess it's partially a guessing game about how many AA customers will be on Aussie business patterns...
#748
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
Since this is a QF/AA joint venture, they arent really competing- the idea that "AA customers" are different that "QF customers" might not be so true. I view this as an analogue of the US-LHR on AA versus BA. You get miles on both, codeshares, connections, etc, etc. Not as loyalty driven. food, seats and service perhaps?
I was wondering if that was the reason for a one way.... supected that. I prolly have a pair of USA-SYD F seats I wont use in mid march. Wrong direction for you. Is there a one way that you can get the value back as a credit, perhaps with a hefty fee? Book that, waitlist the SWU, watch for a saver in J. Is a $200 penalty worth it? 500?
Do keep you eyes pealed for AA74, Id like to think they will open J in the next few ______s (days, weeks...months...years?!?!?)
GL
#749
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: LGA, JFK, LAX, SFO
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 303
I have a real head scratcher.
Booked tomorrow on AA #5922 SFO-LAX as an EXP and still haven't cleared.
The weird thing is the flight is showing F7 A7 P7 and show only 2 people in first along with MCE pretty open. I called the EXP desk and they confirmed my upgrade is still showing requested. If they think they will sell 10 seats in first good luck. Any insight?
Booked tomorrow on AA #5922 SFO-LAX as an EXP and still haven't cleared.
The weird thing is the flight is showing F7 A7 P7 and show only 2 people in first along with MCE pretty open. I called the EXP desk and they confirmed my upgrade is still showing requested. If they think they will sell 10 seats in first good luck. Any insight?
#750
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LA
Programs: AA, DL, UA
Posts: 543
Yikes! Were you upgraded from DFW-PEK at least? J availability in the new 788 routes must be terrible... only 28 premium seats for such a large cabin.