Earning and redeeming AA miles / upgrading on BA/IB; BA fuel surcharge (Oct 1, 2010)
#151
Join Date: May 2001
Programs: AA PLT 2MM, LH SEN *, HH Gold
Posts: 3,075
For arrivals yes. However, for departures using T3 is clearly possible, IB already does.
#152
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LAX
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True, but I guess this depends on how fast BA wants a turn around at ORD and if they're willing to eat up the extra cost. The disembark pax at T5, tow to T3 to embark is an added hassle and cost.
#153
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I think fuel surcharges are bad enough when there is a sudden dramatic increase in fuel prices, but that hasn't been the case for awhile. Damn.. make it part of the ticket price already. These kinds of charges should be outlawed. Fuel is part of the normal requirements for operating an aircraft. What's next, a de-icing charge when de-icing is needed?
#154
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,295
I acknowledge that I don't appreciate the nuances of international upgrades since we use our miles for business class international tickets but, anecdotally at least, there may be an actual improvement in award availability (although maybe only for today). This morning I snagged two business class seats on the dates we wanted in April on BA from BOS to MUC via LHR on the way out and on IB via MAD on the way back. BOS, not JFK! I was stunned. When I asked about a different day, she told me to call back soon as flights were being added to inventory today because of the AA/BA/IB combination. As you know, we could never have flown TATL on BA and any flights from BOS to LHR in business were extremely rare. To avoid the fuel surcharge, I had requested IB for both legs, but only available on the return. Sounds like going through MAD (which I prefer anyway) instead of LHR is going to be a good strategy to save money. We freqently flew IB from BOS to get to Europe, and now it's nice to have BA as a backup.
If you want to snag any TATL award travel, today may be a good day to call.
If you want to snag any TATL award travel, today may be a good day to call.
#155
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 335
as a plat I've always had access to all the OW partners lounges world wide, no questions asked. All they needed to see was my plat card and they would let me in.
#156
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tokyo
Programs: AA-EXP Hilton Honors-PLT Admirals Club
Posts: 105
last Minute use of miles on BA
I know BA charges the ridiculous fuel surcharge (tickets on economy using miles from westcoast are almost $400 to london), but do they also charge for flight at last minute like AA does?
#157
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mostly AUS or rural England
Programs: BAEC redundant Bronze, AAdvantage Lifetime PLT, CO, WN, B6
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Historically they haven't charged close-in award fees, however you also haven't been able to book an award or upgrade less than 24 hours from departure.
#158
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PLT, Natl EC
Posts: 10,855
EXP now have access to LHR T3 Arrivals Lounge
As noted on TB, EXPs now have access to the LHR T3 Arrivals Lounge when arriving on an AA flight:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...ungeAccess.jsp
(note the new London Heathrow Arrivals Lounge column on the right side of each of the tables)
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...ungeAccess.jsp
(note the new London Heathrow Arrivals Lounge column on the right side of each of the tables)
#159
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mostly AUS or rural England
Programs: BAEC redundant Bronze, AAdvantage Lifetime PLT, CO, WN, B6
Posts: 6,526
One way you can check the likely taxes & surcharges is to use a site like itasoftware.com to price the route and class you want. Once you have that, drill down to the fare details and it will break out the components of the price for you. Most of those are identical for reward and revenue tickets.
#160
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 161
You can only upgrade on BA to J from W
You can not buy W on AA.com
You can only upgrade tickets bought on AA.com
Thus, you can never upgrade to J on BA.
Is this correct?
You can not buy W on AA.com
You can only upgrade tickets bought on AA.com
Thus, you can never upgrade to J on BA.
Is this correct?
#161
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PLT, Natl EC
Posts: 10,855
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MODERATOR'S NOTE
The following AA.com links are now live (email received around noon ET):
General Announcement and FAQ:
http://www.aa.com/nowmore
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-faqs.jsp
AA Mileage Earning on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-earn-more-miles.jsp
(100% accrual in Discount Economy on all BA and TATL IB)
AA Elite Status Bonus on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...atus/bonus.jsp
(All elites on IB; PLT & EXP only on BA)
AA Award Travel on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...servations.jsp
(BA TATL flights now eligible for AAdvantage All-Partner Awards)
AA Upgrades on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...rades/main.jsp
(Full Fare Y–>Premium Economy, Premium Economy–>J, J–>F)
AA Upgrades General Info:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-u...servations.jsp
(all AA Upgrades are now subject to a $20 processing fee)
AA Lounge Access:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...ungeAccess.jsp
(EXPs now have LHR T3 Arrivals Lounge access when arriving on an AA flight)
dstan
AA Forum Co-Moderator
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MODERATOR'S NOTE
The following AA.com links are now live (email received around noon ET):
General Announcement and FAQ:
http://www.aa.com/nowmore
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-faqs.jsp
AA Mileage Earning on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-earn-more-miles.jsp
(100% accrual in Discount Economy on all BA and TATL IB)
AA Elite Status Bonus on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...atus/bonus.jsp
(All elites on IB; PLT & EXP only on BA)
AA Award Travel on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...servations.jsp
(BA TATL flights now eligible for AAdvantage All-Partner Awards)
AA Upgrades on BA/IB:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...rades/main.jsp
(Full Fare Y–>Premium Economy, Premium Economy–>J, J–>F)
AA Upgrades General Info:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/jba-u...servations.jsp
(all AA Upgrades are now subject to a $20 processing fee)
AA Lounge Access:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...ungeAccess.jsp
(EXPs now have LHR T3 Arrivals Lounge access when arriving on an AA flight)
dstan
AA Forum Co-Moderator
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Thanks!
#162
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: People's Republic of HotTubistan
Posts: 1,408
Example: R class business fares from the US West Coast to India via the North Atlantic. The cheapest upgradeable business class fare (for an upgrade to F) is a BA R class; this fare class doesn't exist on AA for the same route, at least not yet.
But you could buy the BA fare from AA, then upgrade it on BA metal using AA miles.
#163
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 161
I don't think so. You may have to buy a BA ticket from AA: AA can sell BA tickets that may have a fare class that doesn't exist on AA for that same route.
Example: R class business fares from the US West Coast to India via the North Atlantic. The cheapest upgradeable business class fare (for an upgrade to F) is a BA R class; this fare class doesn't exist on AA for the same route, at least not yet.
But you could buy the BA fare from AA, then upgrade it on BA metal using AA miles.
Example: R class business fares from the US West Coast to India via the North Atlantic. The cheapest upgradeable business class fare (for an upgrade to F) is a BA R class; this fare class doesn't exist on AA for the same route, at least not yet.
But you could buy the BA fare from AA, then upgrade it on BA metal using AA miles.
#164
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: BLR
Programs: AA - EXP, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, UK - Gold
Posts: 1,226
1 - you dont have to buy it from AA.com (only reason to do so is to avoid the fuel surcharge if possible..)
2 - you can call AA and have them book in W on BA
3 - book on ba.com in W and submit AA FF#...you will still get EQM/EQP - doesnt have to be a codeshare to get those EQM/EQP
2 - you can call AA and have them book in W on BA
3 - book on ba.com in W and submit AA FF#...you will still get EQM/EQP - doesnt have to be a codeshare to get those EQM/EQP
#165
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: East Coast
Programs: UA Lifetime Gold, AA Lifetime Platinum, Delta PM, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,522
One way you can check the likely taxes & surcharges is to use a site like itasoftware.com to price the route and class you want. Once you have that, drill down to the fare details and it will break out the components of the price for you. Most of those are identical for reward and revenue tickets.