Website Problems/Issues thread
#61
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Market data could be skewed.
Eg1 I want to fly to A, but unable to do so on NZ website. Instead I book a flight to B (on NZ or someone else) and separate ticket B-A. I doubt market data would show I'm travelling to A.
Eg2 I want to fly to A and stymied on NZ website. While trying on another airline website I discover I can fly to A and also to C for no/little extra cost. My ticket is NZ to C with stopover in A. How does that come through in the market data?
Eg1 I want to fly to A, but unable to do so on NZ website. Instead I book a flight to B (on NZ or someone else) and separate ticket B-A. I doubt market data would show I'm travelling to A.
Eg2 I want to fly to A and stymied on NZ website. While trying on another airline website I discover I can fly to A and also to C for no/little extra cost. My ticket is NZ to C with stopover in A. How does that come through in the market data?
#62
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 50
This. I would really appreciate being able to do so. And I think it would be helpful where a party is flying Business Premier, and being seated horizontally next to each other isn't ideal (except for the two seats close together at the front).
#63
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: AKL
Programs: NZ Silver
Posts: 1,817
maybe its just me and my computer...but I have noticed airnz.co.nz, myairnz.co.nz and even grabaseat.co.nz taking longer to load and even crashing sometimes...it was slowish yest but seems worse today...maybe my comp though!
#64
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 929
$100 for long haul service fee is a lot of higher than other travel agents charge these days, as a loyal air nz customers i dont mind pay for a little bit more, just so i can can earn some flybuys points at the same time, other customers may just switch to a normal travel agent pay lower service fee and might even get a better deal and not flying air nz.
#65
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#66
Join Date: Sep 2009
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$100 for long haul service fee is a lot of higher than other travel agents charge these days, as a loyal air nz customers i dont mind pay for a little bit more, just so i can can earn some flybuys points at the same time, other customers may just switch to a normal travel agent pay lower service fee and might even get a better deal and not flying air nz.
Surely the NZ fee must be one of the highest in the world?
#67
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posts: 3,604
The way I see is this. At the moment, I stay with Airpoints because of the quality of the airline itself. Usually the purpose of FFP is the other way around, to create loyalty regardless, eg Mileage Plus and United.
Last edited by Xiaotung; Jul 9, 2010 at 10:51 pm
#68
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NZ
Posts: 731
A policy is a guideline - it can be waived at any time. Seems NZ just making excuses for "ripping" people off with high service charges.
Just like with provincial airfares - still no response to why NZ charging over $400 to get from Timaru or Blenheim to CHC to use the PE current deal to LAX
Just like with provincial airfares - still no response to why NZ charging over $400 to get from Timaru or Blenheim to CHC to use the PE current deal to LAX
#69
Join Date: May 2005
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I definitely agree with the comments that the engine should allow booking to destinations where there is a published NZ fare (eticketing requirements permitting). NZ misses out on my revenue if I can't book online, to e.g. Ottawa.
Also I would like to see the ability to book to partner destinations using a mix of Premium Economy on NZ and economy on the partner airlines with the multi-stop tool. I can't do that today (I want to go AKL-LAX in PE, then LAX-xxx-YOW in Y).
A wider choice of routing would be nice too.
Also I would like to see the ability to book to partner destinations using a mix of Premium Economy on NZ and economy on the partner airlines with the multi-stop tool. I can't do that today (I want to go AKL-LAX in PE, then LAX-xxx-YOW in Y).
A wider choice of routing would be nice too.
#70
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A policy is a guideline - it can be waived at any time. Seems NZ just making excuses for "ripping" people off with high service charges.
Just like with provincial airfares - still no response to why NZ charging over $400 to get from Timaru or Blenheim to CHC to use the PE current deal to LAX
Just like with provincial airfares - still no response to why NZ charging over $400 to get from Timaru or Blenheim to CHC to use the PE current deal to LAX
#71
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Auckland, NZ
Programs: NZ/QF/BA
Posts: 218
Hi, we do make basic account info and functionality available for Airpoints members without Flash installed with your browser. When you login to myairnz, without Flash you'll see a page entitled 'Get Flash Player' - at the bottom of this page you'll see the sentence "You can view an accessible menu of links."
To be honest, I find it difficult to understand why AirNZ chose Flash as the main platform for their airpoints site. Other frequent flyer programmes manages to develop high quality frequent flyer sites on standard-based HTML/CSS platform -- which can be accessed by virtually any internet-connected devices.
Qantas' FF site remains an excellent example of 'how to do it'. And they did it all using standard-based HTML/CSS which means mobile devices (Android, iPhone, et al) can use it. The only flash they have is for marketing material -- which I don't miss when I have Flash disabled.
I know there's not much that can be done now that there has been a lot of investment into the current myairnz site, but I hope that the next major refresh of the site will see a return to a standard-based platform.
And just for the record, I appreciate that there is a standard-based fall back option. However it is pretty much an ugly second-tier citizen to the flash site. AirNZ could just have developed a single standard-based site which would be accessible just by virtue of being standard-based.
That's my 5cents anyway.
- James
#72
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NZ
Posts: 731
Appears definitely an IT error. The usual add on for PE ex provincial SI is $107.50 - seems the system has not picked up on the special ex CHC or AKL and is just using the old fares. Should not take much to fix the problem. This backed up by the special business class fares staying at $3500 regardless of where you fly from - saves having to see what our consumer watchdogs think
#73
Company Representative - Air New Zealand
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
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Cheers Paul. Good to hear that your IT team are working on the missing bookings problem. I'll toss one more niggle your way, which is the way that the online seating tool insists on seating a party on the same booking together "its way" (eg a party of 4 on the 763 - the online seating tool automatically seats everyone across, say AB-DE, when I much prefer seating AB/AB). Are there any plans to introduce individual seat selection for each pax when part of a larger party on the same booking?
Ta.
Ta.
We do not have any plans to change to individual seating for seat request. I do monitor the logic we use for how groups are seated together to ensure its best fit across the possible scenarios. There is always the challange of seating a group of 4 abcd or ab/ab
Cavemanzk has a good solution booking on a different PNR, however that has the risk of a seat not being available once you go in to seat request.
cheers
Paul
Last edited by Air NZ Online; Jul 11, 2010 at 10:47 pm
#74
Company Representative - Air New Zealand
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Programs: NZ
Posts: 106
Just looked at the companion fares to LAX and yes use the fares over a week as there is abig difference between some days but can be done as base fare of $1500 pp ew ex CHC.
Silly me thought what can I get from the provinces - well add another $457.50 pp ew and you can fly from the provinces (SI only). Appears to be a major fault when cost of getting to CHC is 1/3 the cost of CHC to LAX - may need looking at.
Silly me thought what can I get from the provinces - well add another $457.50 pp ew and you can fly from the provinces (SI only). Appears to be a major fault when cost of getting to CHC is 1/3 the cost of CHC to LAX - may need looking at.
Just wanted you to know I havent forgotten about your message above and when I get an update from my IT team I will get back to you.
Cheers
Paul
Last edited by Air NZ Online; Jul 11, 2010 at 10:45 pm
#75
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: NZ Koru
Posts: 6,415
Hi both
We do not have any plans to change to individual seating for seat request. I do monitor the logic we use for how groups are seated together to ensure its best fit across the possible scenarios. There is always the challange of seating a group of 4 abcd or ab/ab
cheers
Paul
We do not have any plans to change to individual seating for seat request. I do monitor the logic we use for how groups are seated together to ensure its best fit across the possible scenarios. There is always the challange of seating a group of 4 abcd or ab/ab
cheers
Paul
Tip: Never book an A320 trip with 4 people on the same PNR