Flying Blue FAQ
#76
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Last march, so according to the FP rules, I flew Air France (Brit Air) LYS-MAD-BCN-LYS, with an Air Europa ticket bought on voyages-sncf.com (the AF ticket on the same website was about 50 EUR more expensive), and... the miles between France and Spain were credited as level miles, in Tempo Challenge !!!
BTW, no miles at all between MAD and BCA.
BTW, no miles at all between MAD and BCA.
Last edited by bodory; Sep 14, 2005 at 9:30 am
#77
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: FB, MM
Posts: 1
Miles gain when flying SkyTeam member
Hello
Sorry if this has been already discussed at length. However looking at the different post here, looks like no clear answer has not been provided yet (maybe there is not one ;-)
Looking into the miles allocation on AF when flying with Skyteam member I can see:
100% miles allocated in Economy
(http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...cekedfnfdfok.0)
Is it still the case? Basically with this allocation, one would be better off buying a code share tickets (DL, NW) and avoid the 25% earning on long haul KLM V-class and AF L-class.
Is my assumption correct or am I missing something?
Cheers
Sorry if this has been already discussed at length. However looking at the different post here, looks like no clear answer has not been provided yet (maybe there is not one ;-)
Looking into the miles allocation on AF when flying with Skyteam member I can see:
100% miles allocated in Economy
(http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...cekedfnfdfok.0)
Is it still the case? Basically with this allocation, one would be better off buying a code share tickets (DL, NW) and avoid the 25% earning on long haul KLM V-class and AF L-class.
Is my assumption correct or am I missing something?
Cheers
#78
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Originally Posted by fr8ht
Hello
Sorry if this has been already discussed at length. However looking at the different post here, looks like no clear answer has not been provided yet (maybe there is not one ;-)
Looking into the miles allocation on AF when flying with Skyteam member I can see:
100% miles allocated in Economy
(http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...cekedfnfdfok.0)
Is it still the case? Basically with this allocation, one would be better off buying a code share tickets (DL, NW) and avoid the 25% earning on long haul KLM V-class and AF L-class.
Is my assumption correct or am I missing something?
Cheers
Sorry if this has been already discussed at length. However looking at the different post here, looks like no clear answer has not been provided yet (maybe there is not one ;-)
Looking into the miles allocation on AF when flying with Skyteam member I can see:
100% miles allocated in Economy
(http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...cekedfnfdfok.0)
Is it still the case? Basically with this allocation, one would be better off buying a code share tickets (DL, NW) and avoid the 25% earning on long haul KLM V-class and AF L-class.
Is my assumption correct or am I missing something?
Cheers
#79
Join Date: May 2005
Location: London
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Posts: 1,101
Flying Blue miles for KE First Class
I'm planning a trip which may include a KE long-haul flight in F. There is some confusion as to whether these flights earn miles at 150% or 300%. Has any FB member actually taken a KE flight in F and can say what miles he/she earned? It might also help if you say whether you are a former KL or AF frequent flyer (since the information on the KLM website isn't the same as that on the AF ones). Many thanks.
#80
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: JNB
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Originally Posted by rangerss75
the information on the KLM website isn't the same as that on the AF ones
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On www.klm.com
Earning possibilities¹,²
Flying Blue members can earn Miles on all KE-operated flights with a SkyTeam prefix.
You earn:
Economy Class: 100% of your actual flown miles
Business Class: 150% of your actual flown miles
First Class: 300% of your actual flown miles
Flying Blue members can earn Miles on all KE-operated flights with a SkyTeam prefix.
You earn:
Economy Class: 100% of your actual flown miles
Business Class: 150% of your actual flown miles
First Class: 300% of your actual flown miles
Korean Air
Pour un aller-simple sur un vol Korean Air, vous gagnez :
Economique 100% de la distance parcourue
Business 150% de la distance parcourue
Première First 300% de la distance parcourue
Remarques Gain minimal : 750 Miles
Pour un aller-simple sur un vol Korean Air, vous gagnez :
Economique 100% de la distance parcourue
Business 150% de la distance parcourue
Première First 300% de la distance parcourue
Remarques Gain minimal : 750 Miles
#81
Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by Falco Peregrinus
http://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/G...cekedflkdgmn.0
Korean Air
Miles that you earn for a one-way ticket on a Korean Air flight:
Economy: 100 % de la distance parcourue
Business: 150 % of distance flown
First: 150 % of distance flown
Minimum Miles earned : 750 Miles
I'd still like to know what a passenger in F actually receives.
Last edited by rangerss75; Oct 9, 2005 at 9:41 am
#82
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Its indeed 300% for KE F. I noted the website discrepancy to FB awhile back.
They put into my account record that 300% was correct, so there is an audit trail proving the 300%.
They put into my account record that 300% was correct, so there is an audit trail proving the 300%.
#83
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Originally Posted by beaubo
Its indeed 300% for KE F. I noted the website discrepancy to FB awhile back.
They put into my account record that 300% was correct, so there is an audit trail proving the 300%.
They put into my account record that 300% was correct, so there is an audit trail proving the 300%.
#84
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2
Hi all,
I've a few questions concerning Flying Blue. My apologies if certain questions have been covered in the past, but a search didn't reveal any useful information.
About two months ago, I subscribed to Flying Blue. Only two days later, I was on a full fare CDG-AMS one way (thanks to Varig rebooking me on KL, as my RG flight was cancelled). About three weeks later, a welcome bonus of 3 000 miles + 1 250 miles for my flight were added to my account.
Around the same time, I also sent some boarding passes/itinerary receipts of other Skyteam flights to Air France, in order to be credited to my account.
Six weeks behind the first activity on my account, they still haven't sent me my 'real' Flying Blue card. I still have to use that piece of paper I printed when I subscribed two months ago (a comparison with Lufthansa, as I subscribed to Miles and More around the same time: I got my real LH M&M card within 7 days after the first activity on my account was logged)
Another problem: I sent them a letter with boarding passes, receipts etc of 3 Alitalia flights, and one Air France flight. All four were eligible for full mileage.
Of my three Alitalia flights, only two flights have been added to my account. The third flight was an SN Brussels Airlines flight Rome FCO - Brussels, but I booked this flight as an Alitalia flight operated by SN (so earning miles shouldn't be a problem). The second flight which hasn't been added is an Air France flight CDG-AMS (again a full fare ticket, as Varig had again cancelled my CDG-AMS).
Does anybody know what I can do to get the miles of the above flights? And does it really take more than 1,5 month to send a real Flying Blue card?
Thanks in advance for your help.
I've a few questions concerning Flying Blue. My apologies if certain questions have been covered in the past, but a search didn't reveal any useful information.
About two months ago, I subscribed to Flying Blue. Only two days later, I was on a full fare CDG-AMS one way (thanks to Varig rebooking me on KL, as my RG flight was cancelled). About three weeks later, a welcome bonus of 3 000 miles + 1 250 miles for my flight were added to my account.
Around the same time, I also sent some boarding passes/itinerary receipts of other Skyteam flights to Air France, in order to be credited to my account.
Six weeks behind the first activity on my account, they still haven't sent me my 'real' Flying Blue card. I still have to use that piece of paper I printed when I subscribed two months ago (a comparison with Lufthansa, as I subscribed to Miles and More around the same time: I got my real LH M&M card within 7 days after the first activity on my account was logged)
Another problem: I sent them a letter with boarding passes, receipts etc of 3 Alitalia flights, and one Air France flight. All four were eligible for full mileage.
Of my three Alitalia flights, only two flights have been added to my account. The third flight was an SN Brussels Airlines flight Rome FCO - Brussels, but I booked this flight as an Alitalia flight operated by SN (so earning miles shouldn't be a problem). The second flight which hasn't been added is an Air France flight CDG-AMS (again a full fare ticket, as Varig had again cancelled my CDG-AMS).
Does anybody know what I can do to get the miles of the above flights? And does it really take more than 1,5 month to send a real Flying Blue card?
Thanks in advance for your help.
#85
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Originally Posted by Sabena_690
Hi all,
Six weeks behind the first activity on my account, they still haven't sent me my 'real' Flying Blue card. I still have to use that piece of paper I printed when I subscribed two months ago (a comparison with Lufthansa, as I subscribed to Miles and More around the same time: I got my real LH M&M card within 7 days after the first activity on my account was logged)
Six weeks behind the first activity on my account, they still haven't sent me my 'real' Flying Blue card. I still have to use that piece of paper I printed when I subscribed two months ago (a comparison with Lufthansa, as I subscribed to Miles and More around the same time: I got my real LH M&M card within 7 days after the first activity on my account was logged)
Originally Posted by =Sabena_690
Another problem: I sent them a letter with boarding passes, receipts etc of 3 Alitalia flights, and one Air France flight. All four were eligible for full mileage.
Of my three Alitalia flights, only two flights have been added to my account. The third flight was an SN Brussels Airlines flight Rome FCO - Brussels, but I booked this flight as an Alitalia flight operated by SN (so earning miles shouldn't be a problem). The second flight which hasn't been added is an Air France flight CDG-AMS (again a full fare ticket, as Varig had again cancelled my CDG-AMS).
Of my three Alitalia flights, only two flights have been added to my account. The third flight was an SN Brussels Airlines flight Rome FCO - Brussels, but I booked this flight as an Alitalia flight operated by SN (so earning miles shouldn't be a problem). The second flight which hasn't been added is an Air France flight CDG-AMS (again a full fare ticket, as Varig had again cancelled my CDG-AMS).
#86
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2
Thank you for your reply, JOUY31!
Quite a stupid rule in my opinion... The flight was booked as an Alitalia flight, it just happened to be operated by another carrier (SN in this case).
No miles were credited to my LH Miles and More account for this Varig flight, as it was cancelled. I got a new Air France ticket instead, so should be able to get miles for this AF CDG-AMS flight. In fact, the same happened only a few weeks later, and I got full mileage for that flight (1250 miles to be exact).
Regards
SN690
I think your AZ flight must be operated by a SkyTeam carrier in order for you to earn miles. So I am afraid you won't earn any miles with F+'s successor for this flight.
Regarding your CDG-AMS flight, I am not really familiar with Varig's FFP and passenger operations. Did you and should you earn miles with Varig for your originally scheduled flight ? If that were the case, it would be logical to be unable to earn miles on two different FFPs for the same flight segment.
Regards
SN690
#87
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Paris
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Reward fare codes?
On AF the reward fare codes are A for First, O for Business, X for Economy and W for Economy (extended inventory for Elites).
But what are the corresponding fare codes on KLM and KQ?
And maybe an expert could post a table for all FB partners...
But what are the corresponding fare codes on KLM and KQ?
And maybe an expert could post a table for all FB partners...
Last edited by albireo; Nov 14, 2005 at 4:32 pm
#88
Join Date: Mar 2005
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KL, OK, NW reward classes
Answering my own post
:
KLM (KL) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
CSA (OK) rewards are booked in Z for Business and E for Economy.
Northwest (NW) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
Kenya Airways (KQ) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
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KLM (KL) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
CSA (OK) rewards are booked in Z for Business and E for Economy.
Northwest (NW) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
Kenya Airways (KQ) rewards are booked in D for Business and W for Economy.
Last edited by albireo; Nov 23, 2005 at 1:53 am Reason: Added NW, KQ
#90
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Originally Posted by gunship
I'm currently a FB Gold. Will be travelling out from CDG Termial 2C. Will i get to use the First Class Lounge (I'm travelling Business Class) ?
I got some conflicting views from the AF staff in Singapore .
Thanks for your views.
I got some conflicting views from the AF staff in Singapore .
Thanks for your views.