Jul 28, 2021, 7:32 am
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Wiki for Mileage/XP Runs
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Indicate below your itinerary, availability dates, price and XP. Please only log runs with confirmed fares availability. Feel free to tag yourself if you want to meet fellow FTers.
Eg:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-MXP in J, 2021-01-01/02, 570 €, 180 XP
HEL-AMS-LAX-AMS-HEL in J, 2022-08-16/18, 1059 €, 204 XP (@XXXFlyer arriving at 11:50 AM, leaving at 06:00 AM)
Upcoming runs:
MXP-CDG-AMS-KRK in J on 2022/07/21-22, 380€ - 45XP (8,44€/XP) : one way
Past runs:
For future reference, log below your most interesting XP runs:
KRK-AMS-CDG-BCN-AMS-CDG-KRK, 2021-07-22/24, 576 €, 180 XP
ATH-CDG-AMS-KRK-AMS-CDG-ATH in J, 2021-09-18/19, 561€
KRK-AMS-CDG-LIS-CDG-AMS-KRK, 2021-07-22/28, 492 € 180 XP
NTE-CDG-AMS-LIS-CDG-LYS-NTE, 2021-09-25/26, 157 €/42XP
Mileage runs for Flying Blue - best routes?
Mar 22, 2015, 9:27 am
#76
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Netherlands
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 111
well, I have been doing segments a few years but the additional time it takes was not sustainable for me. However, if you don't mind spending the addional time, it is indeed a cheaper way in case you select the right fares.
Mar 22, 2015, 9:32 am
#77
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 183
- for the number of award miles listed, you could just buy them direct from FB for about a third of that price
- the level miles you would earn on this trip would still leave you a long ways off earning even Silver. Better to focus on qualifying by segments, rather than by level miles. The 6 segments of this trip actually probably are more valuable than the level miles earned!
- People who qualify on level miles usually do so because of LONGHAUL (better still: Business) flying. Otherwise, your segment count gets you to the threshold long, long before your level miles balance does
- the level miles you would earn on this trip would still leave you a long ways off earning even Silver. Better to focus on qualifying by segments, rather than by level miles. The 6 segments of this trip actually probably are more valuable than the level miles earned!
- People who qualify on level miles usually do so because of LONGHAUL (better still: Business) flying. Otherwise, your segment count gets you to the threshold long, long before your level miles balance does
- that price looks very high!
Last edited by t0t1t2; Mar 22, 2015 at 9:42 am
Mar 22, 2015, 9:47 am
#78
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,750
I took the min miles per european segment (750) , multiplied that by 2.5(intra european business class) and multiplied that by 6 (nr of segments).
If you are just 10k miles short this might be a better alternative then long haul in an expensive (semi-)flexible Economy fare bucket .
If you are just 10k miles short this might be a better alternative then long haul in an expensive (semi-)flexible Economy fare bucket .
Mar 22, 2015, 5:23 pm
#81
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,624
Actually, I do find segment running more time consuming and tiring than possibly getting the status through miles. On one of my major country pairs (Switzerland-Germany) I really do need to take nonstop flights to save time. Fiddling around through AMS or CDG is something I would rather avoid, unless I'm flying further afield, such as some of the many UK airports that KLM serves (let's face it, KLM serves more British airports than British Airways these days). If I can work the segments out to suit the trip I am on, then fine, but it is often a lot more work.
There must be some good mileage earners out there, perhaps on other Skyteam carriers. Is there really nothing on Delta within the US? Other carriers, such as US Airways, seemed to have interesting premium fares quite often.
There must be some good mileage earners out there, perhaps on other Skyteam carriers. Is there really nothing on Delta within the US? Other carriers, such as US Airways, seemed to have interesting premium fares quite often.
Mar 22, 2015, 5:28 pm
#82
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Mar 23, 2015, 1:27 am
#83
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: A number, but no status no more
Posts: 3,049
Actually, I do find segment running more time consuming and tiring than possibly getting the status through miles. On one of my major country pairs (Switzerland-Germany) I really do need to take nonstop flights to save time. Fiddling around through AMS or CDG is something I would rather avoid, unless I'm flying further afield, such as some of the many UK airports that KLM serves (let's face it, KLM serves more British airports than British Airways these days). If I can work the segments out to suit the trip I am on, then fine, but it is often a lot more work.
On my last trip through AMS, my flight from BRU was slightly late. Got on the bus at 9:25 for a connecting flight at 09:50. Cutoff time of 09:35 (bus again), KLM had already rebooked me. Ran through the airport and made it to the gate at 09:34 .... they happily put me back on the flight, in my original seat and commented "Wow, you made it here fast!" ... so yes, LH right now
GenevaFlyer
PS = And yes, I could give myself a longer connection without arrival at FRA later ... but that means taking a 5:55 flight .....
Jul 13, 2015, 9:36 am
#85
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: WORLD
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, Flying Blue (KLM) Platinum, Oneworld (BA) Sapphire, *A (Aegean) Gold, IHG Spire RA,
Posts: 555
how did you get the HKG-MAD part to route correct back through XMN again? or is that not needed? I only get HKG direct to AMS all the time and then to Madrid and giving a high price.
Jul 13, 2015, 9:10 pm
#86
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,624
I didn't, it would have repriced as a much more expensive fare if I had. The important thing was to somehow get the system to think that XMN was the destination even though I just transited it on my outbound. Passing back through XMN would have made HKG appear as the 'destination', the furthest away point on the ticket.
Jul 14, 2015, 2:59 am
#88
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
I didn't, it would have repriced as a much more expensive fare if I had. The important thing was to somehow get the system to think that XMN was the destination even though I just transited it on my outbound. Passing back through XMN would have made HKG appear as the 'destination', the furthest away point on the ticket.
Jul 14, 2015, 8:39 pm
#89
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
Posts: 11,624
Hope I didn't do anything illegal, but I don't think so because this special price was coming up on a number of platforms for a considerable period of time. Plus, it was widely advertised.
BTW, I read on a German blog that business class fares on AF (KL too?) have been greatly reduced, meaning you could do a 4 segment trip and earn a lot of useful miles towards status requalification. Fares were clocking somewhere in the EUR400-550 range, which is a lot less than it used to be.
BTW, I read on a German blog that business class fares on AF (KL too?) have been greatly reduced, meaning you could do a 4 segment trip and earn a lot of useful miles towards status requalification. Fares were clocking somewhere in the EUR400-550 range, which is a lot less than it used to be.
Jul 17, 2015, 1:11 am
#90
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 18,364
I booked a similar OTP-HKG trip using HGH instead of XMN but the principle is the same (HGH gave better timing for immediate connection to HKG). The fare rules only have no minimum stay requirement in the PRC as such. The minimum stay is calculated by reference to the "last international stopover" and allowed stopovers enroute as well as routing via HKG, so no issue at all with the fare.